The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

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@TheSun: Crystal Palace line up £40m-rated AC Milan star Pavlovic in potential Marc Guehi replacement transfer

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Where do you take that confidence from after the Reijnders transfer :proud:?
Touché on this one.

The numbers being floated around is that we want 25-30M, they first offered 10M.
And then there's something about 15M plus 5M easily achievable bonuses.

The numbers being floated around are so small in size that I doubt a difference of 3 to 4M would make that big of a difference.
If we are actively trying to get rid of Mike as we see him as part of the problem, then 15M is reasonable actually.

Tiji being sold for almost 5 times what we initially bought him for has no bearing on this though.
 

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Not an overarching judgement.
Just speaking the truth. I like Japan that's why I know quite a bit about it.
Speaking the truth means you’re passing judgement.

As for liking Japan, therefore you’re an authority on the subject, I’ve pushed back against you because I’ve spent weeks living in Japan, and my older brother has lived there for almost 5 years. Racism is not prevalent in Japan.
They are very conservative, they don't let many immigrants in.
Japan is actually very open to foreigners, both tourists and workers. However, that the predominant social culture in Japan is traditionalist means that if you’re a smelly otaku dork with skittles for hair, good luck getting by. If you abide by Japanese social norms, the Japanese people are incredibly kind, helpful, and nonjudgemental. If you’re a a barbarian, then you’ll be judged. This goes for many countries, if not everywhere.
When I watch some videos about some White American immigrants being butthurt that even after decades Japanese people still don't consider them to be Japanese and still consider them to be outsiders/gaijin I laugh my ass about it :lol:.
Some may actually be racist, sure. Hateful people are everywhere. But 1st or 2nd generation immigrants not being considered true Japanese is an overblown point. Most nations take this tract. If I move to Albania, God forbid, and I become a citizen, I wager very few would consider me Albanian. I wouldn’t be. This doesn’t mean I’d necessarily be treated any differently, though.
 

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Bild: Leverkusen Rejects Liverpool's £109m Bid for Wirtz – LFC Preparing Improved £118m Offer plus Potential, "Hard to Achieve", Bonus Add-Ons

Leverkusen have been negotiating with Liverpool for more than a month now and have raised the price from £100m > £109m > £118m (€140m) - because they know that Liverpool really want their player and will eventually cave in to their demands.

Everyone knows that Wirtz will be getting his big move this summer - yet Leverkusen refuse to budge and keep sticking to their valuation.

Leverkusen are in the same situation with us as Reijnders - we've both got a key player who will inevitably leave to a richer PL club, yet Leverkusen are the ones holding firm and keep refusing offers until they get a deal at their figures, whilst we immediately crumbled when we saw City offer us anything north of €50m for TJ.

Watch and learn, Milan.
Tonali had all the factors that Tiji is missing, he was young, promising, and we were still in the CL (so didn't need to sell) and yet we sold him for a bargain price, too.
 

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Don't really understand what is a player who is joining a team meant to say? Imagine if we signed someone and they said, ah yeah i didn't really want to leave my old club but I'm here now
 

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Tonali had all the factors that Tiji is missing, he was young, promising, and we were still in the CL (so didn't need to sell) and yet we sold him for a bargain price, too.

U may forgot a little something. He‘s an addict even forwarding invoices for gambling to team mates. This is crazy shit. :g:

Move on from the addict, please.
 

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Tonali had all the factors that Tiji is missing, he was young, promising, and we were still in the CL (so didn't need to sell) and yet we sold him for a bargain price, too.
True, but could it have had something to do with the gambling problems and the eventual one-year ban? If we didn't know anything about that, the fee was hellishly low.

Regardless, I have zero trust in our management when it comes to selling our players at their actual value.
 

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Would you cash in on Leao and use that money to grab Osimhen and go get Chiesa on a loan plus option deal with Liverpool?

Pulisic- Osimhen-Chiesa?


Osimhen wants big money

Makes no sense to spend so much on someone we know has mind on bigger things already

Unless you talking about a loan Galatasaray style
 

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Bild: Leverkusen Rejects Liverpool's £109m Bid for Wirtz – LFC Preparing Improved £118m Offer plus Potential, "Hard to Achieve", Bonus Add-Ons

Leverkusen have been negotiating with Liverpool for more than a month now and have raised the price from £100m > £109m > £118m (€140m) - because they know that Liverpool really want their player and will eventually cave in to their demands.

Everyone knows that Wirtz will be getting his big move this summer - yet Leverkusen refuse to budge and keep sticking to their valuation.

Leverkusen are in the same situation with us as Reijnders - we've both got a key player who will inevitably leave to a richer PL club, yet Leverkusen are the ones holding firm and keep refusing offers until they get a deal at their figures, whilst we immediately crumbled when we saw City offer us anything north of €50m for TJ.

Watch and learn, Milan.
Slight difference here, though. Wirtz is a different level of player.
 

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Are the journalists having a field day with all this written speculative clickbait ?
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Would you cash in on Leao and use that money to grab Osimhen and go get Chiesa on a loan plus option deal with Liverpool?

Pulisic- Osimhen-Chiesa?


If you sell a player like Leao, you better have an adequate replacement lined up. Not necessarily a like-for-like Leao-repalcement, but someone worth their salt, e.g. Paixao or Nusa.

Current Chiesa isn't even better than Saelemaekers as the LW.
 

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True, but could it have had something to do with the gambling problems and the eventual one-year ban? If we didn't know anything about that, the fee was hellishly low.

Regardless, I have zero trust in our management when it comes to selling our players at their actual value.
If we knew about the gambling we would have been in a huge amount of trouble. Fagioli snitched on others to save his skin, and that came after the following season started.

We sell poorly and we buy poorly.
 

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Slight difference here, though. Wirtz is a different level of player.
Point is that we had to stick to our valuation and play hardball in negotiations. Obviously I didn't expect Reijnders to go for 100+ like Wirtz, but should've been 70 + bonuses up to 80/85.

Also; contract duration in line with reasonable wages is PARAMOUNT in this context. Wirtz's contract expires in 2027, Reijnders's contract expires in 2030. Hell, we renewed him in March! :lol:
 

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Despite the disasterclass against Norway, I find the timing of the sacking of Spaletti a bit odd. 2 weeks earlier, and the likes of Allegri or Gasperini could be potential options.

Hope Pioli will get the job. This would mean that some Milan fans might cheer on Italy even though there are no Milan players..
 

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If we knew about the gambling we would have been in a huge amount of trouble. Fagioli snitched on others to save his skin, and that came after the following season started.

We sell poorly and we buy poorly.
Werent we after Fagioli despite his gambling addiction lol?

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Despite the disasterclass against Norway, I find the timing of the sacking of Spaletti a bit odd. 2 weeks earlier, and the likes of Allegri or Gasperini could be potential options.

Hope Pioli will get the job. This would mean that some Milan fans might cheer on Italy even though there are no Milan players..
Only the sadists will cheer for a hack like Pioli

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Point is that we had to stick to our valuation and play hardball in negotiations. Obviously I didn't expect Reijnders to go for 100+ like Wirtz, but should've been 70 + bonuses up to 80/85.

Also; contract duration in line with reasonable wages is PARAMOUNT in this context. Wirtz's contract expires in 2027, Reijnders's contract expires in 2030. Hell, we renewed him in March! :lol:
But according to some Milan have the edge with our master negotiator Furlani 😂
 

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Will somebody trigger midget’s 50 million release clause?


When is allegri’s press conference?
 

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We went into the season with Okafor who you like, Musah who you like. It was only Saelly for Chuk and at the start of the season the overall sentiment was lets give Chuk another chance in his second season over Saelly who looked great in one match and solid in another and nothing special in another.

I was the one clowning most people on here saying Chuk was worse than Messias and Saelly - I was doing that coming out of pre-season his first year with us but many wanted to give him this second season. It seems management wanted to do that as well, they also wanted Tammy who you dont like but still proved to be useful as others said.

But hey continue like going back to the Brugge well was the answer when you couldnt move Chuk easily either at the start of the season.
Who are we buying from Bruges bro???

I do/did like Musah and Okafor, I think they'll be another couple of players that will move on and we'll see different performances, for whatever reason.

Going into the season with ChK and the likes of RLC, was like pinning hopes on Krunic.

Salad for ChK is subjective I guess, but it's clear who I prefer.

Let's agree to disagree x
 

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