The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

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this scenes MUST be from a goat fucking, back water country.

Dear god, thanks that I live in the west. We havent this here.


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Who are we buying from Bruges bro???

I do/did like Musah and Okafor, I think they'll be another couple of players that will move on and we'll see different performances, for whatever reason.

Going into the season with ChK and the likes of RLC, was like pinning hopes on Krunic.

Salad for ChK is subjective I guess, but it's clear who I prefer.

Let's agree to disagree x
I am not sure if Lang was still at Brugge to start last season - that's who I was referring to.

We all aren't happy with management and the direction taken but I think some of it is also just hindsight-ing

Fair - cheers
 

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Tonali was sold during the "DM most important position" phase of transfer hype, when teams were wildly overpaying for any sort of vaguely DM types like Caicedo, Enzo, Tchouameni, Liverpool fought with Chelsea over Lavia, before paying 40m for then-Bayern flop Gravenberch (Bayern spent 18m on him) and 19m on Endo. I'm not saying these aren't good players--but when you look at the price we sold Tonali, it's terrible business.

Whatever factors supposedly mitigated Tiji (mainly age) did not exist for Tonali, as non-PL players got huge fees, and to think how close Gravenberch and Tonali fees were (40m and 58m) considering the place they were in their careers and their status at their respective clubs is insane.

If the idea is that we knew that Tonali was a gambling addict, then why would we attach bonuses to the deal with Newcastle? We should have wanted the money all up-front--and do you think Newcastle would have bought Tonali knowing that he was going to get banned for a year? All the reporting (from Orstein and Horncastle) was that Newcastle came in fast and first, we didn't shop Tonali around, we didn't try to maximize our price, we rewarded Newcastle's audacity to try and go for Tonali with a good deal--why?

If Saudi and/or Abu Dhabi give us sponsors or become minority owners of Milan, I'll raise my hand, say bravo Furlani and Redbird, you did potential partners a solid and it benefitted Milan.

Otherwise, we sold players beneath their value. Newcastle fans and City fans both think we sold these players for bargain prices.
 

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we'd have 65 more million and not had to sell reindeer if you made cl furlani.
me thinks they'd sell him even if we had made CL

it genuinely feels like they're so enamored with seeing a big green number next to a player's plusvalenza they get tunnel-visioned into selling / underselling. 0 ability to negotiate or hold out. if city wanted him before the club world cup thing it should have made them pay more, not us sell faster. we have a bunch of gutless bitches running this club.

bernardo is getting older, gundogan is both old and fell off, kdb left and tij is an unique profile that fits their scheme perfectly. folding against a club that is probably desperate for this kinda player is some amateur hour sht
 

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me thinks they'd sell him even if we had made CL

it genuinely feels like they're so enamored with seeing a big green number next to a player's plusvalenza they get tunnel-visioned into selling / underselling. 0 ability to negotiate or hold out. if city wanted him before the club world cup thing it should have made them pay more, not us sell faster. there's some absolute bitches running this club
afraid to draw it out because city could pull out of negotiations but who cares because you keep a world class mid on your team.

and if you always wanted to sell then you should have gave reindeer #10 and hyped him so you could have gotten 100mil for him.

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me thinks they'd sell him even if we had made CL

it genuinely feels like they're so enamored with seeing a big green number next to a player's plusvalenza they get tunnel-visioned into selling / underselling. 0 ability to negotiate or hold out. if city wanted him before the club world cup thing it should have made them pay more, not us sell faster. we have a bunch of gutless bitches running this club.

bernardo is getting older, gundogan is both old and fell off, kdb left and tij is an unique profile that fits their scheme perfectly. folding against a club that is probably desperate for this kinda player is some amateur hour sht
Our club is run by people that haven't got a clue about football. Gerry and Furlani combined know less than the average casual football viewer. Not even a football fan, just someone that occasionally watches the sport on TV
 

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Point is that we had to stick to our valuation and play hardball in negotiations. Obviously I didn't expect Reijnders to go for 100+ like Wirtz, but should've been 70 + bonuses up to 80/85.

Also; contract duration in line with reasonable wages is PARAMOUNT in this context. Wirtz's contract expires in 2027, Reijnders's contract expres in 2030. Hell, we renewed him in March! :lol:
Yeah, all good points.

I think Reijnders pushed quite hard for the transfer, for what it's worth.
 

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me thinks they'd sell him even if we had made CL

it genuinely feels like they're so enamored with seeing a big green number next to a player's plusvalenza they get tunnel-visioned into selling / underselling. 0 ability to negotiate or hold out. if city wanted him before the club world cup thing it should have made them pay more, not us sell faster. we have a bunch of gutless bitches running this club.

bernardo is getting older, gundogan is both old and fell off, kdb left and tij is an unique profile that fits their scheme perfectly. folding against a club that is probably desperate for this kinda player is some amateur hour sht
The moneyball vision have truly polluted the mgmt's minds. Have we become afraid of letting big money deals slip away, because we're afraid that we won't be able to recoup it from other potential sales? Like any offer between €50m - €60m is an once-in-a-century offer that we will never receive again? Is it because we've done our calculations and plan to sign 3x€20m players to make the team "better"?

I'm a fan of the moneyball model itself, but it just doesn't work at a club like Milan. It would fit neatly for Fiorentina or even Lazio, but not here.
 

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I am not sure if Lang was still at Brugge to start last season - that's who I was referring to.

We all aren't happy with management and the direction taken but I think some of it is also just hindsight-ing

Fair - cheers
He's on Holland now doing pretty well.

If we're keeping Leao and want to push him a little I'd say Noa was a good option for an attacking spot across the field behind the striker.

His stock value has gone up since we counted him and allegedly Nipples are looking at him.

If he goes there I expect him to do well and move on in a year or two for decent money.

Without European football he's a luxury player, but inserting Okafor or ChK into a deal and keeping Salad is a low cost operation that would help us I'd say.

Signing Jo David as well and it allows us to invest in other areas that are needed.

Going into another season with ChK and Okafor really doesn't inspire me.
 

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Fek it, we never knew how to sell a player. :rolleyes:

I know Tijji wanted to leave, but they had everything in their hands to ask for more money and to make their demands.
 

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afraid to draw it out because city could pull out of negotiations but who cares because you keep a world class mid on your team.

and if you always wanted to sell then you should have gave reindeer #10 and hyped him so you could have gotten 100mil for him.

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then they spend 150m on musahs and rlcs and when one turns out half decent, i bet they feel proud about themselves :lol:
 

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He's on Holland now doing pretty well.

If we're keeping Leao and want to push him a little I'd say Noa was a good option for an attacking spot across the field behind the striker.

His stock value has gone up since we counted him and allegedly Nipples are looking at him.

If he goes there I expect him to do well and move on in a year or two for decent money.

Without European football he's a luxury player, but inserting Okafor or ChK into a deal and keeping Salad is a low cost operation that would help us I'd say.

Signing Jo David as well and it allows us to invest in other areas that are needed.

Going into another season with ChK and Okafor really doesn't inspire me.
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The reticience on selling players like Tiji isn't because "oh no, no other midfielder will ever play well for us again!" I mean, we have Adli, come on guys, relax. No, it's because the long track record of Moncada unleashed is absymal failure--they cannot replace players, they don't know how to buy players, they are shit at this.

Messias has outperformed Chuk, for a fraction of the cost. Musah has been terrible, and mind you, I wanted Musah here before he was linked with us. RLC's goals covered his problems last year and he was useless this year because he was injured. Okafor a good backup season and then... what? He was supposed to bench Leao and crumbled under the pressure and then left, failing a medical (apparently?); great. Does anyone call Fofana a smashing success? Pavlovic gets away with so much shit it's crazy, he literally has one man to mark and he forgets about him, where he runs out-of-position constantly but he huffs and puffs! Terracciano has done... what? Morata did... what? Sottil did... what? Walker did... what? Joao Felix did... what? Emerson Royal did... what? Pellegrino did... what? How many transfer failures do they have to have? Does Santi strike you as a hit? I hope he becomes one, who doesn't like a childhood Milan fan becoming a star striker? I'd love it. What has Bondo done to justify his 10m winter transfer? Tammy wasn't that bad, fine. Jovic, not that bad--but again, you look at their track record and it's so fucking bad it's insane.

Kalulu has done very well with Juve, CDK did well at Atalanta (and I hate CDK), Adli did well enough at Fiorentina to either come back here or go to Napoli, the only reason Saelemaekers is back is because Roma didn't have an option, he did a great job for them. Do all of our loanees have to be doing amazing in order for them to be wrong? No, but I'd rather have Kalulu over Emerson Royal. I'd rather have CDK at RW than Chuk, and I repeat, I hate CDK. I'd rather have Adli over Musah, Bondo, and RLC. Alexis wouldn't have been helpful this year instead of Sottil and Okafor, shit, even Felix? Pobega and Calabria would have been useful for the lists alone, but we went into the season very thin (particularly in midfield) and sent away a home-grown Pobega, so we could start Tiji and Fofana against a Serie B side?

Tare and Allegri want to keep Mike, but they can't because of what Furlani did. If you think Tare and Allegri are wrong to trust Mike, okay, cool, can't wait for the great keeper they bring in--you think I'm going to be mad at them for replacing a player with someone cheaper who is better? Lol. Then you don't know me.

Ibra has been a disaster, he's embarassed the club publicly and privately, with other organizations thinking of us as a joke because of him. I say this while I love Ibra (as a player), but he's been a disaster. He's not gone anywhere. I think there's a genuine difference between leading as a player and leading as an executive, and I think his work as an executive has been poor.

Don't worry, we have Tare and Allegri now!

Berta and Paratici did not want to come here, neither did D'Amico nor Sartori--and the fact that Moncada, Furlani, and Ibra (and their various lackeys like Kirovski) are all still employed and part of this structure show that none of those SDs wanted this job under these circumstances. Milan is a huge club, one of the biggest in the world, look at what just competent executive work did to Milan: they more than doubled Milan's revenues in what? 3-4 years?

Tare took the job, he wanted it, it's a huge opportunity, and we will see how much they will interfere with his work. People want the job, SD, manager, etc, they want it--but we offer insulting terms. It seems when it comes to coach, the executives can throw Fonseca and Conceicao under-the-bus, but they're all still in their jobs, no one got fired, and they are going with Allegri. I hope Allegri does an amazing job, truly, I do, but my fear with Tare, as SD, is that he's going to be undermined, because he was willing to accept terms that other SDs were not, just like Conceicao was in the winter.

Tare has been praised by many, including Boban, so like Allegri, I'm rooting for him, but I just don't get how we are supposed to pretend that things are okay now even when the architects of this disaster are all still here.
 

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These players are all phonies. After convincing us that Milan is his dream team, that he's always been a fan, and loves the jersey, he leaves at the first opportunity to make more money and all the love goes away,(could have negotiated a higher salary because 3.5 is really too low), can't wait to skip town.

Our admiration for a player has to be strictly based on his talent on the pitch not him as a person that we really don't know much about.
Even Rivera, my first idol, turned out to be not a great guy: his feud with Berlu, suing the club, (guess something to do image rights), his involvement with politics on the far right as a member of the Europen Parlament, has made him absent from all our festivities.
I agree. I've learned to not care about players and just the club only. If this were Milan in the 90s or 2000s, players would be begging to stay. Now Milan is just a stepping stone smh.
 

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