You really are a child arent you?
So classy lolYou really are a reetard arent you?
Stop talking bs and noone will call u out for being a reetard
But Djalo was starting for them in CL games wasn’t he?Not sure about the Caldara-Bonucci swap but if we're being real, we should be cooked for that Djalo to Lille transfer.
We sold them a primavera player with market value of 175k for 4m. This shit is exactly why Juve is in trouble now with the plusvalenza case.
afaik he was highly rated back then. isn’t he a starter at lille now?Not sure about the Caldara-Bonucci swap but if we're being real, we should be cooked for that Djalo to Lille transfer.
We sold them a primavera player with market value of 175k for 4m. This shit is exactly why Juve is in trouble now with the plusvalenza case.
Not really, Djalo was a huge talent in both Sporting and our academy. We beat Man City and Man Utd to his signature and then 6 months later he was hand-picked by none other than Luis Campos in the Leao deal.Not sure about the Caldara-Bonucci swap but if we're being real, we should be cooked for that Djalo to Lille transfer.
We sold them a primavera player with market value of 175k for 4m. This shit is exactly why Juve is in trouble now with the plusvalenza case.
Seems like he is forcing a move so we should be safe from nowThe annual Zaniolo links returning
He might as well win a ballon d'or now, that doesn't change the fact that at the time we bagged 4m for a player valued 175k.But Djalo was starting for them in CL games wasn’t he?
If we really look at it like this they need to investigate Monaco bc FBT is about 175k as well
But that's not the point lol.Not really, Djalo was a huge talent in both Sporting and our academy. We beat Man City and Man Utd to his signature and then 6 months later he was hand-picked by none other than Luis Campos in the Leao deal.
If we sell Paqueta for 50 m, we receive 50 m. How is that not real money?
ok but who says he was valued 175k? i mean transfermarkt is nothing official or really objective so pointless arguing with their calculated values.He might as well win a ballon d'or now, that doesn't change the fact that at the time we bagged 4m for a player valued 175k.
Someone also mentioned Olzer, we got 3m for him at the time when his market value was 150k.
Wdym about FBT? FBT had a market value of 6.5m at Monaco at the time we got him for 5m. Nothing shady there.
But that's not the point lol.
Transfermarkt will always value players based on their actual performance, which is hard to gauge in Primavera football, especially for a German football website with little insight in Italian or Portuguese academy football - and not the players potential, which is unquantifiable from a Transfermarkt perspective, yet that's the fee Lille and Luis Campos paid.He might as well win a ballon d'or now, that doesn't change the fact that at the time we bagged 4m for a player valued 175k.
Someone also mentioned Olzer, we got 3m for him at the time when his market value was 150k.
Wdym about FBT? FBT had a market value of 6.5m at Monaco at the time we got him for 5m. Nothing shady there.
But that's not the point lol.
Well that's how it works for Juve as well.ok but who says he was valued 175k? i mean transfermarkt is nothing official or really objective so pointless arguing with their calculated values.
Alright man, sure.Transfermarkt will always value players based on their actual performance, which is hard to gauge in Primavera football, especially for a German football website with little insight in Italian or Portuguese academy football - and not the players potential, which is unquantifiable from a Transfermarkt perspective, yet that's the fee Lille and Luis Campos paid.
Milan fans who follow the Primavera will know that Djalo and Olzer were the biggest talents in our academy at the time they left and Lille/Brescia paid for their potential.
But didnt prosecutors use transfermarkt as a basis of their argument in the case against Juve?ok but who says he was valued 175k? i mean transfermarkt is nothing official or really objective so pointless arguing with their calculated values.
It just shows how long we havent been spending - the really good players on that list are from a generation ago.
As far as I recall, Djalo wasnt anything special in the PrimeveraTransfermarkt will always value players based on their actual performance, which is hard to gauge in Primavera football, especially for a German football website with little insight in Italian or Portuguese academy football - and not the players potential, which is unquantifiable from a Transfermarkt perspective, yet that's the fee Lille and Luis Campos paid.
Milan fans who follow the Primavera will know that Djalo and Olzer were the biggest talents in our academy at the time they left and Lille/Brescia paid for their potential.
They have wiretaps of Paratici talking about how they're inflating the values.Tbh
I dont get this case against Juve
Is the plusvalenza shit they were doing dodgy? Sure, of course it is.
But it isnt illegal. After all, player values are subjective. Just look at some of the ridiculous transfer lately.
For example, Bayern bought Mathys Tel for like 35m or so despite him playing barely any professional games. What about the ridiculous amounts RM are paying for youngsters from Brazil.
Not to mention the countless deals English clubs are doing, pawning off youth players for ridiculous money.
Almost every club does it. How do you exactly value a players worth? Story is that they used Transfermarkt as a basis for their argument...like really? Transfermarkt?.
Of course it's a different story if Juve were nor recording the correct values agreed upon between the clubs, but havent heard anything official about that. Its all just hearsay at the moment.
Seems to me they are only getting punished because their management was dumb enough get themselves recorded. You would think they would have learnt from the last time it happened lol.
Regardless, like it or not - this isnt good for the league. 2006 destroyed Serie A, and just when they are atleast attempting to make some sort of a comeback, back down they go again.
Fucking Juve.
padre stumbling to another scudetto
Better than our RWs but that doesn't speak volumes.you can gas him up all you want but in the end no top club is really interested in him even though he doesn't seem to have a good relationship with chelsea. they also sign a new winger every week because hekky z is so good.
he finally assisted a goal this season. against palace.
He might as well win a ballon d'or now, that doesn't change the fact that at the time we bagged 4m for a player valued 175k.
Someone also mentioned Olzer, we got 3m for him at the time when his market value was 150k.
Wdym about FBT? FBT had a market value of 6.5m at Monaco at the time we got him for 5m. Nothing shady there.
But that's not the point lol.
IMO 15 points is a bit harsh, personally I would've given them a hefty fine, but then again when the shit flies...Well that's how it works for Juve as well.
They might argue that each player in the shady transfers they did was the biggest talent at the time, scouted by Man City and Luis Campos.
Be real, do you think a shitter called Giacomo Olzer was worth 3m?
Alright man, sure.
Should the -15 penalty stand for Juve in your opinion?
He made some mistakes, but I most definitely saw the potential in him.As far as I recall, Djalo wasnt anything special in the Primevera
No I meant where's the manipulation to front load your 'profit'. That's the whole point of this mess. The game that lots of Italian clubs (us included) have been playing was to manipulate the accounting so that you get 'profits' for your current financial year in return for amortized spending equal to that amount. On the balance, they cancel each other out, but in this financial year you're desperate for profit (plusvalenza) so that you can get past FFP or similar regulations at FIGC.Nothing illegal
Transfermarkt will always value players based on their actual performance, which is hard to gauge in Primavera football, especially for a German football website with little insight in Italian or Portuguese academy football - and not the players potential, which is unquantifiable from a Transfermarkt perspective, yet that's the fee Lille and Luis Campos paid.
Milan fans who follow the Primavera will know that Djalo and Olzer were the biggest talents in our academy at the time they left and Lille/Brescia paid for their potential.
As I saidThey have wiretaps of Paratici talking about how they're inflating the values.