The Rumour Commode XLIV: Paragliding to Piolistine Crisis

[Cloren]

Don't fuck with me man.
This done for real?

Sadly seems like not a reputable source

 

[Curupira]

I am a teacher and would like to see the Pioli problem through a teacher's perspective. It is always difficult to deal with a new cohort of students, mainly because you do not know the personality of the students.

Also excellent post

 

[Soldier_of_god]

I think that was the plan all along. When you take these statements and how Cardinale describes Zlatan you could strike Zlatan and replace his name with Maldini and those statements would still remain also true.

IMO, he wanted Maldini to be what Zlatan is going to be, but for whatever reason, the collaboration failed and they parted ways. Though I don't think it failed because of a clash of ego and ambition alone because who else if not Zlatan is the epitome of ego and ambition?

And if Gerry hates other taking a shiny place in the spotlight, hiring Zlatan of all people to basically run Milan would be a very idiotic move. I don't think Gerry is an idiot. He's too successful with his other assets to be an idiot.

He may not be an idiot but he could hire idiots via nepo quota which he has done

 

[Curupira]

Gave me way bigger scare than the fake article.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

I think it has to be Motta or RDZ. No way we go with Conte.

It will be conte and he is going to absolutely butcher serie a. Get ready for 5 peat

 

[Curupira]

It will be conte and he is going to absolutely butcher serie a. Get ready for 5 peat

Conte ain’t stayin us for 5 years bro

 

[Curupira]

I'm kinda surprised we just took the money for Chaka rather than maybe seeing him hit 5 Serie A goals and being part of a deal for a better player in the summer, with a sensible buy back inserted.

Although including players in deals for better player sounds like a good idea, more often than not we are going to get less than what we think the player involved in the deal is worth, unless there’s already agreement in place for separate deal, for example if we choose to go for Zirkzee or Calafiori and want to “include” Salad.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

I am a teacher and would like to see the Pioli problem through a teacher's perspective. It is always difficult to deal with a new cohort of students, mainly because you do not know the personality of the students. You do not how they would react in certain circumstances. You will need some time to observe their behavior and adjust yours accordingly to get the best performance out of them. This should not be much different for a football coach, I believe. Every time you have a new player, you must spend some time with them and observe their behavior/performance. The difficulty of adjusting your tactics, man management, etc. increases exponentially when you have more and more new players.

Starting this summer, I was so disappointed by the management, simply because they committed far too many changes that destabilize any social institutions. They first fired Maldini, and then brought in too many players. At that point, I was confident that this ship would go into a very rough period, and we would see many ups and downs in the best-case scenario. I wrote that Pioli must be praised if he could achieve a top-4 and advance to the UCL knock-out stage. Obviously, the latter did not happen, but in my view that was mainly because we were extremely unlucky! If we could convert only one of the many chances we created against Newcastle, we would have achieved that goal. The former goal will be achieved, I believe. And, I guess we still have a good chance to win EL. So, Pioli still has a chance to actually "overachieve" this season.

In my view, Pioli's performance should be evaluated not only in terms of tactics, but in the light of the fact that the management gave him almost a brand-new squad. And, here, we are talking about human beings, not robots. It is not like we gave him a PlayStation controller to control virtual players. Each player brings in their own crazy, unpredictable behavioral attributes and circumstances. When these attributes meet other new players' and the existing ones’ it becomes a high-order nonlinear dynamic complex system to solve.

Overall, the team has performed well this season. Most likely, we will snatch the second spot next week. And we will be second only behind Inter who have been extraordinary this season (like how Napoli performed last season). If Inter had not been super powerful this season, we would not have been so unhappy about our league results. So, is our squad the best in the league that we expect Pioli to achieve better than making us second? I genuinely believe that we do not have the best squad. So, expecting him to win the scudetto is a bit too much, especially with the circumstances I mentioned above.

Final word: we are all frustrated with some of the decisions Pioli has made and some of the words he has uttered. But honestly, have there been any coaches we were happy with in that regard? Every coach (human being) has his own idiosyncrasies that we cannot tolerate. For me, Pioli has had the minimum levels of idiosyncrasies, to be honest. I imagine a person like Conte would drive me mad after the first season! lol

Sorry about the long post. Just my personal reflections! Please feel free to ignore.

Yes it equates to a real analysis problem now. Right now pioli is able to solve the ODEs and calculus 3 level issues. Real analysis is a whole another beast. He had to fail this season to succeed next time. He has done his proofs this year and hopefully that will be enough to pass the real analysis test next season when we destroy teams again.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Conte ain’t stayin us for 5 years bro

Give him free hair transplant and he will

 

[Curupira]

lying bastard! there is very little aesthetic appeal to his game

 

[Soldier_of_god]

If we get rdz cancel all season pass tickets tv subscriptions and football apparel jersesys etc. We will finish midtable.

 

[Curupira]

Negative Sir, He lacks positional awareness for that role ++

What if I told you we could get a player who can pass, control and recover the ball with finesse? And he goes by the name Caqurete




Tijjani is our new Seedorf albeit from Temu, he can still grow and hopefully become closer to Dorfs level or at least better than Bonaventura(who was actually decent) no diss, make no mistake, but Tijjani for me so far is just..meh.

What happened to Caquerete I rmemeber we were linked with him at one point

 

[Hitchens]

I am a teacher and would like to see the Pioli problem through a teacher's perspective. It is always difficult to deal with a new cohort of students, mainly because you do not know the personality of the students. You do not how they would react in certain circumstances. You will need some time to observe their behavior and adjust yours accordingly to get the best performance out of them. This should not be much different for a football coach, I believe. Every time you have a new player, you must spend some time with them and observe their behavior/performance. The difficulty of adjusting your tactics, man management, etc. increases exponentially when you have more and more new players.

Starting this summer, I was so disappointed by the management, simply because they committed far too many changes that destabilize any social institutions. They first fired Maldini, and then brought in too many players. At that point, I was confident that this ship would go into a very rough period, and we would see many ups and downs in the best-case scenario. I wrote that Pioli must be praised if he could achieve a top-4 and advance to the UCL knock-out stage. Obviously, the latter did not happen, but in my view that was mainly because we were extremely unlucky! If we could convert only one of the many chances we created against Newcastle, we would have achieved that goal. The former goal will be achieved, I believe. And, I guess we still have a good chance to win EL. So, Pioli still has a chance to actually "overachieve" this season.

In my view, Pioli's performance should be evaluated not only in terms of tactics, but in the light of the fact that the management gave him almost a brand-new squad. And, here, we are talking about human beings, not robots. It is not like we gave him a PlayStation controller to control virtual players. Each player brings in their own crazy, unpredictable behavioral attributes and circumstances. When these attributes meet other new players' and the existing ones’ it becomes a high-order nonlinear dynamic complex system to solve.

Overall, the team has performed well this season. Most likely, we will snatch the second spot next week. And we will be second only behind Inter who have been extraordinary this season (like how Napoli performed last season). If Inter had not been super powerful this season, we would not have been so unhappy about our league results. So, is our squad the best in the league that we expect Pioli to achieve better than making us second? I genuinely believe that we do not have the best squad. So, expecting him to win the scudetto is a bit too much, especially with the circumstances I mentioned above.

Final word: we are all frustrated with some of the decisions Pioli has made and some of the words he has uttered. But honestly, have there been any coaches we were happy with in that regard? Every coach (human being) has his own idiosyncrasies that we cannot tolerate. For me, Pioli has had the minimum levels of idiosyncrasies, to be honest. I imagine a person like Conte would drive me mad after the first season! lol

Sorry about the long post. Just my personal reflections! Please feel free to ignore.

Superb post.

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

Now you sounding like Deep Fried

Gerry's biggest get is a streamer - we need all the help we can get because this turtle strategy doesnt work if the smart guys arent hitting homeruns

What have I said...

I've been pretty complimentary about RedBird the past 24 hours... Deliver the goods and there's no place for agendas and twisting narratives.

We are behind schedule for that #20 though!!!

 

[Hitchens]

If we get rdz cancel all season pass tickets tv subscriptions and football apparel jersesys etc. We will finish midtable.

But imagine the passing patterns.

 

[Pigeon]

We are behind schedule for that #20 though!!!

how?

inter won #18 and #19 before us, we're totally on schedule for #20

 

[Soldier_of_god]

But imagine the passing patterns.

Yea for making lateral side ways passes and back passes. Only to concede 5 goals every game

 

[Correctamundo]

What happened to Caquerete I rmemeber we were linked with him at one point

We were really close signing him 2yrs ago but those croissant cunts offered him a contract renewal + captain armband, I think this happend in the same mercato they eventually sold Guimares so their economy back then was okay I guess.. but these days not soo much.

 

[Curupira]

Deers is more strootman calibre max.

He is not a patch on dorf. Dorf is an ATG level midfielder. Probably amongst best ever

Prime strootman would be a good addition to this squad

 

[iamditi]

Real Madrid wants to send Guller on loan, we were interested to sign him last year, i hope we dont take him on dry loan like we did with Brahim.

 

[icculus71]

I am a teacher and would like to see the Pioli problem through a teacher's perspective. It is always difficult to deal with a new cohort of students, mainly because you do not know the personality of the students. You do not how they would react in certain circumstances. You will need some time to observe their behavior and adjust yours accordingly to get the best performance out of them. This should not be much different for a football coach, I believe. Every time you have a new player, you must spend some time with them and observe their behavior/performance. The difficulty of adjusting your tactics, man management, etc. increases exponentially when you have more and more new players.

Starting this summer, I was so disappointed by the management, simply because they committed far too many changes that destabilize any social institutions. They first fired Maldini, and then brought in too many players. At that point, I was confident that this ship would go into a very rough period, and we would see many ups and downs in the best-case scenario. I wrote that Pioli must be praised if he could achieve a top-4 and advance to the UCL knock-out stage. Obviously, the latter did not happen, but in my view that was mainly because we were extremely unlucky! If we could convert only one of the many chances we created against Newcastle, we would have achieved that goal. The former goal will be achieved, I believe. And, I guess we still have a good chance to win EL. So, Pioli still has a chance to actually "overachieve" this season.

In my view, Pioli's performance should be evaluated not only in terms of tactics, but in the light of the fact that the management gave him almost a brand-new squad. And, here, we are talking about human beings, not robots. It is not like we gave him a PlayStation controller to control virtual players. Each player brings in their own crazy, unpredictable behavioral attributes and circumstances. When these attributes meet other new players' and the existing ones’ it becomes a high-order nonlinear dynamic complex system to solve.

Overall, the team has performed well this season. Most likely, we will snatch the second spot next week. And we will be second only behind Inter who have been extraordinary this season (like how Napoli performed last season). If Inter had not been super powerful this season, we would not have been so unhappy about our league results. So, is our squad the best in the league that we expect Pioli to achieve better than making us second? I genuinely believe that we do not have the best squad. So, expecting him to win the scudetto is a bit too much, especially with the circumstances I mentioned above.

Final word: we are all frustrated with some of the decisions Pioli has made and some of the words he has uttered. But honestly, have there been any coaches we were happy with in that regard? Every coach (human being) has his own idiosyncrasies that we cannot tolerate. For me, Pioli has had the minimum levels of idiosyncrasies, to be honest. I imagine a person like Conte would drive me mad after the first season! lol

Sorry about the long post. Just my personal reflections! Please feel free to ignore.

Expectation levels for Milan are all over the place and I agree that Pioli has done a good job for us...this year was difficult with the influx of players and all the injuries.
For the realists, we see Pioli is a coach that helped deliver us from the darkness and did a a decent job with some youthful players (others not so much).
he creates a fantastic team culture and we dont seem to have too much trouble off the field (salad and krunic)

The question remains, now we are out of the darkness and our kids are grown up, is he the best coach to take the next step?
Some of us (myself included), love to dive deep into the tactics employed and coaches approach to individual games...and let me tell you, Pioli has had some serioius head scratchers.
Personally, I do not think he is the coach to lead us muliple CL titles, its not his space. Pioli's space is with a younger side, struggling to find the correct attitude, not a team of world class players, trying to win against Real or Man City. Does this mean we need to change this summer, probably not, as unfortunately, we are a few seasons away from competing at the level anyway...but long term, Pioli is not the guy (or gal).

...and yes conte would drive most of us nuts....

 

[Graeco]

Yes it equates to a real analysis problem now. Right now pioli is able to solve the ODEs and calculus 3 level issues. Real analysis is a whole another beast. He had to fail this season to succeed next time. He has done his proofs this year and hopefully that will be enough to pass the real analysis test next season when we destroy teams again.

I can’t tell you how much I approve of this particular post

 

[Curupira]

Real Madrid wants to send Guller on loan, we were interested to sign him last year, i hope we dont take him on dry loan like we did with Brahim.

We still have an underperforming RW…

No room for that little shit

 

[Cloren]

Real Madrid wants to send Guller on loan, we were interested to sign him last year, i hope we dont take him on dry loan like we did with Brahim.

So we have a deranged Turkish fanbase abusing our coach when he refuses to play him or players when they don’t pass the ball him.

No thanks

 

[Soldier_of_god]

I can’t tell you how much I approve of this particular post

Real analysis was the hardest fucking subject I ever did and I technically dint even need to do it. I found it harder than even complex analysis and stochastic processes.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Has brahim been good this year? Atleast stats wise doesn't look like it?

 

[Correctamundo]

Re: Adli, Pirlo wasn't exactly a kid when he arrived, let's give Adli some time

Pirlo was 22 when he joined us, Adli turns 24 in July...

 

[Mr. Tea]

 

[Nevermore]

I think it has to be Motta or RDZ. No way we go with Conte.

Why not? I think we will have a good transfer budget to satisfy him in summer.
But until we qualify to CL any talk about new coach is just speculation

 

[Graeco]

Real analysis was the hardest fucking subject I ever did and I technically dint even need to do it. I found it harder than even complex analysis and stochastic processes.

Although analysis was not my specialty, I had to teach the real analysis course one semester. A student was crying to me during office hours, and I told him that a lot of people stumble when confronted with math for the first time. He told me he was great at math, and pointed to his calculus sequence. I had to tell him that wasn’t math, but tricks we had to teach people who wanted to be engineers.

But, nice to know there’s another math geek on here