Andrea Pirlo Thread

[GreatKalu]

The master, Galliani even said it was his biggest mistake, forget the clowns around here...

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[sushanmilano]

Sup matherchod long time no see

 

[benjamin]

Glad he didnt win the champions league with Juve, and Buffon too.

 

[GreatKalu]

@Sushan, Im around, but busy.

@Benjamin, whether he won or not, far too many successful teams have had Pirlo as their linchpin for it to be a mere coincidence. And to think we let him go for van bommel, of all people.

Had we kept Pirlo, we would have been in a much better state now, with a decent enough midfield for him to leave behind as he retires... we would have remained competitive at the highest level.

Forget Ibra, Pirlo is the most dominant player in Italian football for the past 14 years... the master magician...

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[Massaro94]

@Benjamin, whether he won or not, far too many successful teams have had Pirlo as their linchpin for it to be a mere coincidence. And to think we let him go for van bommel, of all people.

Had we kept Pirlo, we would have been in a much better state now, with a decent enough midfield for him to leave behind as he retires... we would have remained competitive at the highest level.

Forget Ibra, Pirlo is the most dominant player in Italian football for the past 14 years... the master magician...

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Nearly scored from a corner few days back

Maestro just toying with them

 

[Jasper]

Forget Ibra, Pirlo is the most dominant player in Italian football for the past 14 years... the master magician...

 

[leaf]

@Sushan, Im around, but busy.

@Benjamin, whether he won or not, far too many successful teams have had Pirlo as their linchpin for it to be a mere coincidence. And to think we let him go for van bommel, of all people.

Had we kept Pirlo, we would have been in a much better state now, with a decent enough midfield for him to leave behind as he retires... we would have remained competitive at the highest level.

Forget Ibra, Pirlo is the most dominant player in Italian football for the past 14 years... the master magician...

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Ridiculous!
Totti, Nesta, MALDINI, Cannavaro, ADP have all been much more dominant

They were bossing it even while P!rl0 was FLOPPING at CAM for inter. Ancelotti, Lippi and $h!telegri supplied him with bodyguards and he was able to produce
GTFO with that fanboy bullshit mad

 

[necromancer]

Del Piero dominant

The only thing he has ever dominated is the Juve dressing room.

 

[vidarth]

YEah del piero was not "dominant". He was great initially but after Ibra joined Jube it was mainly Trezeguet + Ibra dominance.

Could say the same about Cannavaro as well - not that good for Inter. Even at Juve I think Thuram was the better of the two but quite close. Cannavaro had the amazing 2006 WC. He sucked really bad from the next day onwards

Totti + Nesta + Maldini + Ibra are all more dominant than Pirlo.

 

[leaf]

Del Piero dominant

The only thing he has ever dominated is the Juve dressing room.

ADP led more than just the dressing room at Juve. When they got relegated to Serie B, he dragged them back to Serie A with a weakened squad.

He was TWICE the Italian Footballer of the year
He was the UCL top scorer
He was Serie A and B top scorer

Let me ask you something....was P!rlo ever TOP or BEST ANYTHING for Milan ??

the only thing I can think about is that he was the top assist provider for Italy in 2006....P!rlo was never the top anything....yet the narrative of him being the best still continues for his fans the closest he's been to the Golden Ball is 5th ...not even on the podium

Because at Milan, both Kaka (also won top striker) and Seedorf won Top Midfielder (Gattuso came second) in his time here but he never won it at milan....at Juve though he won SerieA player of the year

 

[necromancer]

Serie B topscorer? Italian Player of the Year? Dude.

Toto Di Natale > Alex Del Piero

 

[leaf]

Serie B topscorer? Italian Player of the Year? Dude.

Toto Di Natale > Alex Del Piero

ok now you're trolling. Neither have you answered....was P!rlo the "top" anything? Pathetic

 

[milanicious]

Why does Pirlo have to be Top something ?

He is a guy that plays in front of the defense so why should he have the most goals/assists ?

Forget about his long balls , his ability to find players in a position where they are one pass short of a goal is unrivaled.

 

[leaf]

Why does Pirlo have to be Top something ?

He is a guy that plays in front of the defense so why should he have the most goals/assists ?

Forget about his long balls , his ability to find players in a position where they are one pass short of a goal is unrivaled.

You don't HAVE to be the top of anything....but it's a fairly decent guide at gauging where a footballer stood in the constellation of fellow stars and greats.

For the description you gave, I can mention Zidane, who also happened to win the WOPY three times....despite never leading in goals or assists. The thing is, ZZ was recognized by the footballing world and was voted by his peers as the best. P!rl0 never was....Even Xavi did better by making it to the Ballon 'D Or podium....It's not enough to be a good cog in a well oiled machine imho. You should be recognized individually to be considered elite.

 

[milanicious]

You don't HAVE to be the top of anything....but it's a fairly decent guide at gauging where a footballer stood in the constellation of fellow stars and greats.

For the description you gave, I can mention Zidane, who also happened to win the WOPY three times....despite never leading in goals or assists. The thing is, ZZ was recognized by the footballing world and was voted by his peers as the best. P!rl0 never was....Even Xavi did better by making it to the Ballon 'D Or podium....It's not enough to be a good cog in a well oiled machine imho. You should be recognized individually to be considered elite.

Sorry but that's really a weak argument , GOAT defender Nesta never made it either , Seedorf too.

Pirlo was more than decisive in Italy winning the WC.

Edit : Most of Zidane's individual awards mean as much as Messi " best player in the WC"

 

[necromancer]

We should put warning signs in this thread asking posters to go through the 760 pages of Drucurl and Leaf posts before engaging with the chap's obsession.

 

[leaf]

Sorry but that's really a weak argument , GOAT defender Nesta never made it either , Seedorf too.

Pirlo was more than decisive in Italy winning the WC.

Edit : Most of Zidane's individual awards mean as much as Messi " best player in the WC"

fail
Alessandro Nesta:

Serie A Defender of the Year (4): 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003
Serie A Young Footballer of the Year (1): 1998

Seedorf:
Best UCL Mid 2007

We should put warning signs in this thread asking posters to go through the 760 pages of Drucurl and Leaf posts before engaging with the chap's obsession.

Yeah that would be cool.....





OR you could answer the questions I have posed and not try to attack me personally but we all know you are far too deceitful for a proper argument anyway

"Obsession"

You and your kind were obsessed with painting a great player with colours deserved for the elite world class ones and the paint kept draining off as he never deserved it


Now go run along like a good pseudomancer and ask David to ban me again because I hurt your precious feelings about P!rl0

 

[milanicious]

fail
Alessandro Nesta:

Serie A Defender of the Year (4): 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003
Serie A Young Footballer of the Year (1): 1998

Seedorf:
Best UCL Mid 2007

I thought you were only referring to Balon d'or and WPOY

Anyway Pirlo is a 3 time Serie A player of the year and so many other stuff

 

[leaf]

I thought you were only referring to Balon d'or and WPOY

Anyway Pirlo is a 3 time Serie A player of the year and so many other stuff

for Juventus

 

[milanicious]

for Juventus

What does this have to do with his status as a player ?

 

[leaf]

What does this have to do with his status as a player ?

See below:

Let me ask you something....was P!rlo ever TOP or BEST ANYTHING for Milan ??

 

[milanicious]

See below:

So if someone from the midfield that had Gattuso , Seedorf and Kaka was playing better than Pirlo then this means that Pirlo was shit ?

 

[leaf]

So if someone from the midfield that had Gattuso , Seedorf and Kaka was playing better than Pirlo then this means that Pirlo was shit ?

It doesn't mean that he was shit. Far from it. That midfield was world class.

However Kaka is not the greatest player of all time. He is definitely in our legends but there were arguably better players that played for us.

Neither is Seedorf.

Neither was Gattuso.

So the fact that P!rl0 was (generally) inferior to them all should put things into perspective. I'm trying to develop a holistic argument, rather than hinging my entire opinion on one particular parameter of judgement.

Keep in mind that my initial posts were geared toward answering madtherchot's initial post that P!rl0 was the most dominant player in Italian football in the last 14 years. All of these grandiose comments about the guy are patently false and merely a product of his fans' emotional response to the fantastic skills that he showed from time to time.

 

[milanicious]

It doesn't mean that he was shit. Far from it. That midfield was world class.

However Kaka is not the greatest player of all time. He is definitely in our legends but there were arguably better players that played for us.

Neither is Seedorf.

Neither was Gattuso.

So the fact that P!rl0 was (generally) inferior to them all should put things into perspective. I'm trying to develop a holistic argument, rather than hinging my entire opinion on one particular parameter of judgement.

Keep in mind that my initial posts were geared toward answering madtherchot's initial post that P!rl0 was the most dominant player in Italian football in the last 14 years. All of these grandiose comments about the guy are patently false and merely a product of his fans' emotional response to the fantastic skills that he showed from time to time.

Not sure if we had an AM better than Kaka.

I never said that he was inferior to them all , he surely isn't inferior to Gattuso and Seedorf maybe only Kaka.

The vision and passing skills that Pirlo bring to the game are very important , just because he didn't perform at the same level every year doesn't mean he is shit , for example the level of his teammates dropped significantly.

You saw what he brought to Juve.

 

[leaf]

I never said that he was shit (non-troll posts).

But when ppl say statements like the one I quoted above ....or compare him to FAR superior players like Zidane it gets annoying

 

[milanicious]

Pirlo >>>>> Zidane

Zidane flopped in 2 CL finals , his moment of glory is 2 headers vs Brazil after a shit tournament.

 

[leaf]

Aaaaaand there it is

How many CL finals....you know what? I ain't even mad.....

Ok bro....peace and love ...Jah bless

dru out

 

[Raz]

Pirlo >>>>> Zidane

What?

 

[Massaro94]

Pirlo >>>>> Zidane

Both are GOATS.

his moment of glory is 2 headers vs Brazil

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Hahahahhahahahahahhahaha loo?ooooooooooooool. Too good.
Pirla >>> zidane ?? Hahahahhhahaha
Pirla is not even better than MVB, let alone zidane.
Pirla isnt better than MVB, scholes, xavi and even shweini, let alone zidane.