CL: AC Milan (2) vs Barcelona (3) - 23/11/11

[Fiero]

Lol diving? Pippo dives like hell, robinho dives.. how many attackers dont get frustrated and dive? and i clicked on fiero's last post first and stopped reading there. Messi overrated? Ok

You bitch it took me half an hour to compile them all!

And yes Messi is overrated. When some people call him the best player in history coughbutthurtmidgetnumbersixcough, then he's overrated.

And are Alves, Mascherano, Iniesta, and Busquetes attackers? It's a catalan philosophy.

respect for you sir

Love you man!

 

[sushanmilano]

He is not best player ever, but he is the best player in the world easily Pretty much nothing left to do for him at club level(already scored 200 goals for barca), just needs to win the world cup.

 

[MilanMB]

I dont get the hate against the barcelona either. Hating because they are good? Just be thankful that you got to witness one of the greatest teams ever.

I hate them because they're a bunch of cunts. I respect their talent.

 

[Fiero]

He is not best player ever, but he is the best player in the world easily Pretty much nothing left to do for him at club level(already scored 200 goals for barca), just needs to win the world cup.

Hence he's OVERRATED. Doesn't mean he's not good, just rated higher than his real level.

When you have teams like madrid trying to play rugby and not football with them you have to side with barca. Its clear that a physical approach is everybody's first choice against barca because of their small stature. Nobody attempts to beat them at football. Watch boateng get a red card tomorrow

Then why do they dive vs other teams too? Last I checked football was a man's game. And the rough play is in response to the diving, when you play vs bitches, the only solution is to kick them around.

Respect for Rio Ferdinand. Barcelona, FFS #StayOnYourFeet.

What are these teams? AC Pippo and Robinho FC?

You miss the point as it is the team, Barcelona, that is hated universally because play-acting and hounding the ref are two integral parts of their overall 'beautiful game' strategy.

Other teams might have one or two divers, but there's nothing that exists to this scale in top-class football.

To be specific, I have nothing against Iniesta or Villa or Pedro etc independently, but Barca squad and their philosophy is pukeworthy. And a lot of that puke gets sprayed on to individual players, which is but natural.

Best post ever.

I hate them because they're a bunch of cunts.

This guy knows.

 

[campsfield68]

He is not best player ever, but he is the best player in the world easily Pretty much nothing left to do for him at club level(already scored 200 goals for barca), just needs to win the world cup.

which he is never going to win because he can't do anything without xavi and iniesta

 

[Jasper]

clarence may start, yessss

What is the point of this? He 'may' always start.

 

[MilanMB]

clarence may start, yessss

That old whore starting should never be a source of enjoyment for any Milan fan.

 

[Berlusconi]

I don't like the fact that Barca dives either, but the truth is that if they don't dive they will get killed and they had to learn that the hard way. Arsenal is a perfect example of this, they play almost the same style as Barca except for the fact that they don't dive as much and if you look at their injury report for the last couple of years you will see how many of their starters played a full season.

 

[sushanmilano]

What is the point of this? He 'may' always start.

Well nocerino has rarely not played in a match this season so i had lost hope of seeing clarence start(and we got good results in serie a playing noce-mvb-aquilani). But clarence in press conference , allegri's right hand man and all...has rekindled hopes of seeing him wearing captain's armband and giving champions league worthy performance.

 

[andresmilanista]

What's with the "They're the best in the world" mentality? Focus people...we're the best on fucking earth in about 28 hours the world will see what Milan is made of...

Let's crush them, no mercy!

Cowards!..

I for one am dissapointed that Barcelona won't be at full strength... Even if we win, it'll be rather hollow.

With their full team they couldn't beat us, and at that time we were missing a lot of players. Time for them to see how it feels

 

[Jasper]

Well nocerino has rarely not played in a match this season so i had lost hope of seeing clarence start(and we got good results in serie a playing noce-mvb-aquilani). But clarence in press conference , allegri's right hand man and all...has rekindled hopes of seeing him wearing captain's armband and giving champions league worthy performance.

Almost 2 hours of training for the Milan squad just 48 hours before the big match against Barcelona. Tactics was the key to the session.

MILANELLO - The squad started training at 3pm today after the visit of Antonio Cassano. The first half hour of the workout took place on the raised pitch: a ten minute warm-up was followed by some running up and down hill.

Then Allgeri got his players to work on ball possession followed by an intense tactical workout for 40 minutes. It all ended with a game of 20 minutes 11 against 11.

All players were available except for Pippo Inzaghi and Clarence Seedorf who worked apart.

Tomorrow is the last raining session before the game against Barcelona

http://www.acmilan.com/en/news/show/137405

 

[campsfield68]

I don't like the fact that Barca dives either, but the truth is that if they don't dive they will get killed and they had to learn that the hard way. Arsenal is a perfect example of this, they play almost the same style as Barca except for the fact that they don't dive as much and if you look at their injury report for the last couple of years you will see how many of their starters played a full season.

still doesn't justify diving likie cunts !!!

 

[fredrik9]

All players were available except for Pippo Inzaghi and Clarence Seedorf who worked apart.

The truth about Clarence is that he was lost all morning. They found him this afternoon in the woods nearby Milanello. He was sitting there staring at a flower. It happens sometimes. Nothing Milan wants to talk about. Hence "worked apart".

 

[Ashish]

Messi is overrated for sure, but he is the best player in the world, I already hate football

The truth about Clarence is that he was lost all morning. They found him this afternoon in the woods nearby Milanello. He was sitting there staring at a flower. It happens sometimes. Nothing Milan wants to talk about. Hence "worked apart".

are you sure you are not talking about zlatan because clareance is always ready for cl nights for good or bad

 

[andresmilanista]

He is not best player ever, but he is the best player in the world easily Pretty much nothing left to do for him at club level(already scored 200 goals for barca), just needs to win the world cup.

BS, he's not even among the best in the world. I do believe Cristiano is a better player. He can score both in his club and with his national team...

Messi can't score with Argentina.

Ronaldo was good in the ManUre days, he's still good in Real Madrid...

I can bet, if Messi goes out of Barca, he'll never be the player he is right now...


But enough with the midget, he's just another rival now...fuck him

 

[Berlusconi]

Cristiano is not better then Messi, call me when Cristiano does a different move besides the step over and the way Messi goes through defenses can not be copied by any other player in the world...Zlatan did it with Ajax and other players have went through practically the whole team to score, but Messi does it EVERY week almost, not against Nesta of course!

 

[andresmilanista]

Cristiano is not better then Messi, call me when Cristiano does a different move besides the step over and the way Messi goes through defenses can not be copied by any other player in the world...Zlatan did it with Ajax and other players have went through practically the whole team to score, but Messi does it EVERY week almost, not against Nesta of course!

BS again. Cristiano is fast, skillful, has a great long distance shot, he's tall (for headers)

He's way more complete than Messi...

Plus, he can score Penalty Kicks


The referee is getting me worried, Bommel might get a red card if he plays (just because...)

 

[Capo Ultra]

The selected players:

Abbiati, Amelia, Abate, Antonini, Bonera, Nesta, Taiwo, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta, Yepes, Ambrosini, Aquilani, Boateng, Emanuelson, Nocerino, Seedorf, Van Bommel, Ibrahimovic, Pato, Robinho.

 

[Ashish]

I so want zlatan or even robinho to win ballondor next year but its very tough

i hope san siro boo the shit out of those Mofos

 

[Berlusconi]

BS again. Cristiano is fast, skillful, has a great long distance shot, he's tall (for headers)

He's way more complete than Messi...

Plus, he can score Penalty Kicks


The referee is getting me worried, Bommel might get a red card if he plays (just because...)

if you wanna put it that way then Ibrahimovic is a more complete player then Messi, and Cristiano is more complete player then Maradona as well, can shoot with both feet has a better header then Maradona...but if you look at the way Messi shits on players it is not comparable to anyone sorry your wrong

 

[Lucia]

I don't like the fact that Barca dives either, but the truth is that if they don't dive they will get killed and they had to learn that the hard way. Arsenal is a perfect example of this, they play almost the same style as Barca except for the fact that they don't dive as much and if you look at their injury report for the last couple of years you will see how many of their starters played a full season.

I'm sorry but this is just BS, stats even show that Barca fouls the other team more that they get fouled themselves when you look at fouls per minutes of ball possession!!

They dive because it benefits them tactically, they play a victim mentality and it's been working great for them. The fact is they are no more nobel in their approach than any other team, even Messi dives, scores with his hands, just last match he was whistled for two deliberate handballs when trying to control the ball infront of goal.

And Arsenal's injuries might have to do with them having younger players, playing in a more aggressive league, many other things.

How many of Barca's injuries are even connected to them being fouled? Just look at Pato, he mostly injures himself.

Messi is far from being the most fouled player in la liga.

 

[Berlusconi]

I'm sorry but this is just BS, stats even show that Barca fouls the other team more that they get fouled themselves when you look at fouls per minutes of ball possession!!

They dive because it benefits them tactically, they play a victim mentality and it's been working great for them. The fact is they are no more nobel in their approach than any other team, even Messi dives, scores with his hands, just last match he was whistled for two deliberate handballs when trying to control the ball infront of goal.

And Arsenal's injuries might have to do with them having younger players, playing in a more aggressive league, many other things.

How many of Barca's injuries are even connected to them being fouled? Just look at Pato, he mostly injures himself.

Messi is far from being the most fouled player in la liga.

Actually you can't really calculate most fouled player in la liga because of the diving and the bullshit fouls the ref will call, if thats the case then Dani Alves would win

Going back to the Ronaldinho era at Barca however when Rijkaard was Manager they did not dive like they do now. All we have to do however is counter dive!! every time they dive we dive harder!

 

[Berlusconi]

We have to give Barca one or two of these!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPkgFlajk0M

 

[Shevagool]

Abbiati, Amelia, Abate, Antonini, Bonera, Nesta, Taiwo, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta, Yepes, Ambrosini, Aquilani, Boateng, Emanuelson, Nocerino, Seedorf, Van Bommel, Ibrahimovic, Pato, Robinho.

 

[look]

I played pes 2010 CL Exhibition. AC Milan 4-2 FC Barcelona
SUBS:
Villa (injuried)---->Affellay(injuried)
Robinho------>Pato 1Goal
Nocerino-----> Urby YC
KPB-----> Seedorf(injuried)

Goals: Aquilani----->van Bommel
Aquilani----->Pato
Aquilani----->Ibrahimovic(wonderful cross by Aquilani and Wonderful Volley by Ibra
Pato-------->Ibrahimovic
Nesta was MOM of the defense

 

[sushanmilano]

Being complete doesnt mean he is better. Messi can cause more havoc to the opposition . Ronaldo is quite big so obviously he is a better header of the ball then messi . But who cares ,Messi can and has made ronaldo look like a noob with his close control dribbling. Scored in 2 cl finals, 10 or 11 goals against madrid. many assists as well. Where was crisitiano when messi and barca emabarassed madrid 5-0? In the many games they have played cristiano has scored like 1 goal and has had pathetic performances. Ronaldo will never score goals like messi , he doesnt have that much skill. He can keep hitting the gym training 150 hrs a week but he will never be better than messi...never...

 

[Senatore_M84]

Being complete doesnt mean he is better. Messi can cause more havoc to the opposition . Ronaldo is quite big so obviously he is a better header of the ball then messi . But who cares ,Messi can and has made ronaldo look like a noob with his close control dribbling. Scored in 2 cl finals, 10 or 11 goals against madrid. many assists as well. Where was crisitiano when messi and barca emabarassed madrid 5-0? In the many games they have played cristiano has scored like 1 goal and has had pathetic performances. Ronaldo will never score goals like messi , he doesnt have that much skill. He can keep hitting the gym training 150 hrs a week but he will never be better than messi...never...

it goes both ways.

Yes I think Messi is better than Ronaldo. Messi can do things Ronaldo cannot in build up. But at same time Ronaldo can do things Messi can only dream of.

It's really subjective and worthless convo to be honest.

What i do think. Swap them, barca still beats madrid. Ronaldo @ CF would score just as many as messi. Would not assist nearly as many but thats ok, they'd allow xavi/iniesta/fabregas/busquets to control posession more than play it thru Ronaldo.

Messi at madrid would add a level of playmaking, but still doesn't address their major issue w/ barca. They arte constantly out maned and owned in midfield cause the tactics are off

 

[Ashish]

Noobs maradonna is awesome , he defines football. overrated machine like europeans and barca school boys

 

[xaviesta]

I love how the conversation is always Messi vs Ronaldo when Xavi is better than both.

 

[Ashish]

I love how the conversation is always Messi vs Ronaldo when Xavi is better than both.

but pirlo is even better, look at juventus