Preferred Formation

Which formation ?

  • 4-3-2-1

    Votes: 140 36.6%
  • 4-3-1-2

    Votes: 242 63.4%

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Got to think about this formation during Sundays game:

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I think the problem with that formation is that we haven't got suitable subs for evry position.
 

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I want the X-mas tree back:

==============Pazzini
===========Ses=====Niang
 

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Against Sampdoria I would have liked to see


-------------------Abbiati------------------
--DES-----Zapata---------Acerbi---KC------
-------------------Flamini---------------
--------Montolivo----------Nocerino--------
------------------RobinHood---------------
---------Niang-----------------ElSha-------
 

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I would agree to the above posts, when we have a real CM who can play along with Montolivo and De Jong. In other words, when Muntari is back. With the current personnel (Nocerino), I simply can't digest a 3-man midfield.

I disagree with the above posts that SES is our only attacking threat. He is the main one, but DES is really a very dangerous player going forward and a lot of SES goals came from profiting from a dangerous DES cross and creeping from behind.

I would like to see us revert slowly back to a diamond midfield similar to the one I posted above. This is to profit from the characteristics of our full backs who are good at pushing the ball forward. Then a 3 man midfield gives you many options especially with the characteristics of the ones we have, they must cover the full backs defensively, and they must move the ball around with each other to allow the team to push up the field.

As things stand:

--------------------------Abbiati/Gabriel-----------------------
---DeS/Abate----Zapata/Mexes----Acerbi/Yepes---Constant/Antonini---
-------------------------Ambro/Flamini-----------------------------
-----------Monto/Muntari--------------Boateng/Nocerino-----------
------------------------Bojan/Emanuelson------------------------
-----------------Pazzini/Niang---------SeS/Robinho---------------
 

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-------------------Abbiati/perin
-----Abate/Bonera---Zapata---Mexes
Desciglio--DeJ/Flam-----Mont/Munt--Constant
--------------Balo/Niang----SeS/Boa
----------------------Pazz/Balo
Subs: SalamonDM AmbroDM, Emanuelson LW, BinhoFW and one or two good CB

i think with that formation we will be much more creative and dinamic as now...
 
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Not Valid to Thread, need to get of my chest

I am a Celtic and Milan fan, I really hope Milan win the League this year! I can't believe the Juventus dogs can get away with cheating! Did you see Champions League game yesterday? I mean they deserved to win, but the logic of the team is a disgrace to Italian football, I can see why they're so hated! Same old Juve, always cheating! I swear If I seen Lichtensteiner in the street I'd be the one getting Physical because he'd be getting a headbutt right to the jaw! I mean I'm all for rough play but he was a disgrace! He pushed Scott Brown, looked at the linesmen then he fell to the ground! They're like the Ranger's of Italy. (Even though Ranger's died :lol: ) But I will be flying across to come to the Lazio game, really Hope Milan can pull it off and get the title back where it belongs! :thumbsup:
 

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I am a Celtic and Milan fan, I really hope Milan win the League this year! I can't believe the Juventus dogs can get away with cheating! Did you see Champions League game yesterday? I mean they deserved to win, but the logic of the team is a disgrace to Italian football, I can see why they're so hated! Same old Juve, always cheating! I swear If I seen Lichtensteiner in the street I'd be the one getting Physical because he'd be getting a headbutt right to the jaw! I mean I'm all for rough play but he was a disgrace! He pushed Scott Brown, looked at the linesmen then he fell to the ground! They're like the Ranger's of Italy. (Even though Ranger's died :lol: ) But I will be flying across to come to the Lazio game, really Hope Milan can pull it off and get the title back where it belongs! :thumbsup:

Hey, man! Juve hate is valid on every thread!:thumbsup::D
 

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I am a Celtic and Milan fan, I really hope Milan win the League this year! I can't believe the Juventus dogs can get away with cheating! Did you see Champions League game yesterday? I mean they deserved to win, but the logic of the team is a disgrace to Italian football, I can see why they're so hated! Same old Juve, always cheating! I swear If I seen Lichtensteiner in the street I'd be the one getting Physical because he'd be getting a headbutt right to the jaw! I mean I'm all for rough play but he was a disgrace! He pushed Scott Brown, looked at the linesmen then he fell to the ground! They're like the Ranger's of Italy. (Even though Ranger's died :lol: ) But I will be flying across to come to the Lazio game, really Hope Milan can pull it off and get the title back where it belongs! :thumbsup:

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::lol::lol:
Good, tell to every friend you know that Ladri are cheating.
 

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Juventus 1-0 Milan: Milan press Pirlo @ goal-kicks, but not in midfield April 22 2013

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A reverse of the previous meeting between the sides – the only goal came from the penalty spot in another disappointing contest.

Antonio Conte continued with the 3-5-1-1 that worked excellently away at Lazio, with Giorgio Chiellini returningin place of Federico Peluso.

Max Allegri was still without Mario Balotelli, and Mathieu Flamini was also banned.

Massimo Ambrosini played the deep midfield role, with Riccardo Montolivo to the right and Kevin-Prince Boateng to the left.

This was a slow-paced, attritional contest with little technical quality – most shots were from long-range.


Midfield battle

Juve’s new 3-5-1-1 system isn’t an entirely different shape from their 3-5-2, of course.

It’s a nice solution because Paul Pogba’s excellent performances have forced Conte to field him regularly from the start, while Claudio Marchisio’s game isn’t significantly altered by starting higher up the pitch.

The main feature of Juve’s attacking play – clever movement and combinations between the front two – is still possible.

However, the surprising thing about the midfield battle was that, throughout the first half, Milan dominated the centre ground despite theoretically having a 3 v 4 disadvantage in that zone.

It was odd that Juventus were so overrun in the middle of the park – the presence of an extra midfielder should have resulted in them dominating possession.

An interesting part of Milan’s possession play was that, with Mirko Vucinic remaining close to Cristian Zapata, Philippe Mexes was free to move forward on the ball and hit good passes into midfield, whereas Zapata only played square balls.

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Pirlo

Milan had an interesting approach when it came to Andrea Pirlo, who remains Juve’s most important player. When Gianluigi Buffon had the ball, Milan moved forward and pressed the Juve defence 3 v 3 – and one of the midfielders, usually Montolivo, would push up and get tight to Pirlo.

At least twice, Buffon passed the ball forward to Pirlo under pressure, and he played a blind pass straight to an opponent.

That pressing was a feature of Bayern’s gameplan against Juve, although Milan also pressed very effectively in the reverse meeting between the sides.

However, once Juve had got the ball forward and played it into the midfield zone, Pirlo was left completely free.

Ambrosini was close to Marchisio, Montolivo on Pogba and Boateng against Vidal.

Although Giampaolo Pazzini gradually moved towards his own goal to pressure Pirlo, he hardly ever got goalside – and therefore while Pirlo was struggling in his own third of the pitch, he had the run of the centre ground.

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It was surprising Allegri didn’t replicate the system he used in Milan’s 1-0 win over Juve earlier in the season, with Boateng as a false nine pressuring Pirlo – Sulley Muntari, who was forced to replace Ambrosini through injury at half-time anyway, could have played Boateng’s central midfield role.

However, a couple of times Juventus had a problem at defensive transitions.

With Vucinic alone upfront – even if Marchisio was in close support – it felt like more Juventus midfielders had a responsibility to support him.

At one point, Marchisio, Vidal and Pogba all made forward runs in advance of the Montenegrin, but when he lost the ball, Juve found themselves with three of their four midfielders out of the game, and Pirlo alone in front of the defence trying to stop a Milan break.


Flanks

With the midfield zone neutralised aside from Pirlo – who looked to pass to the flank anyways – and both Vucinic and Pazzini quiet, the wings seemed to be an important area of the pitch.

This was where Milan, in their 4-3-3 system, really should have thrived – but both Robinho and Stephan El Shaarawy were quiet, unable to collect the ball on the run to motor past Juve’s outside centre-backs, which is what they’d done excellently in the reverse game.

However, with Juve’s centre-backs often occupied, there was space for Milan’s full-backs to get forward.

Ignazio Abate was significantly more attacking than Kevin Constant, and good balls from Montolivo found him racing down the flank a couple of times – although he could never quite find the right cross.

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Goal

There was a strong feeling that the first goal would decide the game – eventually it came from the penalty spot.

However, the move leading to the goal was interesting – Pirlo knocked a hopeful ball in behind Abate, who defended it poorly, and Kwadwo Asamoah raced in behind where he was brought down by substitute goalkeeper Marco Amelia.

It was something of a freak incident – Pirlo’s ball, in truth, had been misplaced – but it did show where Milan were vulnerable.

First because they allowed Pirlo time on the ball, second because Abate isn’t a very good full-back in a defensive sense.


Changes

There was only one substitution of any consequence – on 70 minutes Bojan Krkic replaced Robinho, and Milan went to a 4-2-3-1 system, with Boateng moving to the right flank, and Bojan as the number ten.

Allegri has often fielded Bojan in that role this season, but you can’t help feeling he’s uncomfortable there, and more suited to the front trio. The switch changed little as Juve sat deep.

Conte brought on Simone Padoin for Stephane Lichtsteiner for fresh legs on the right, then made two time-wasting substitutions in injury time. Juventus weren’t significantly troubled.

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Conclusion

Serie A meetings between these two have been particularly dull in recent years, and this was another underwhelming clash with little creativity or attacking spark from either side.

The centre-forwards weren’t involved, the midfield was too cramped, and there was a lot of onus upon the full-backs/wing-backs for attacking drive.

The key feature of the game was Pirlo – Milan pressed him at goal-kicks, but left him free in midfield.

It seemed a goal would arrive either from him conceding possession on the edge of his own box, or knocking a clever pass into the opposition box.
In the end, in a roundabout way, it was the latter.

Juventus are now four points from the title with five games remaining.

They have may been convincingly defeated in the Champions League by Bayern, but considering that was Conte’s first European campaign, and they’ve successfully defended their title, this still qualifies as an excellent season.
 

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if we really get tevez something of Christmas tree formation I d love to see. It will please Berlusconi having 3 strikers, either one of them could go wide at any point to counter and stretch defenses and create spaces and they could aslo give support to midfielders in defending when needed.

-----------:star:

----------Balo

-------Ses-Tevez

-----Boa-Nigel-Monto

-------Defense--------

---------Abbi-
 
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if we really get tevez something of Christmas tree formation I d love to see. It will please Berlusconi having 3 strikers, either one of them could go wide at any point to counter and stretch defenses and create spaces and they could aslo give support to midfielders in defending when needed.

-----------:star:

----------Balo

-------Ses-Tevez

-----Boa-Nigel-Monto

-------Defense--------

---------Abbi-

No it won't. He wants a pure playmaker with 2 up front, don't you read the news? We already had the 3 forward up front formation and it didn't please him. And I understand him.
 

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if we really get tevez something of Christmas tree formation I d love to see. It will please Berlusconi having 3 strikers, either one of them could go wide at any point to counter and stretch defenses and create spaces and they could aslo give support to midfielders in defending when needed.

-----------:star:

----------Balo

-------Ses-Tevez

-----Boa-Nigel-Monto

-------Defense--------

---------Abbi-


who moved my post and why? or I posted it here?:lol::fp:
 

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milans best starting formation today would be:

Abbiati
Abate-Zapata-Mexes-MDS(Constant)
Boateng-NDJ-Monto
Saponara
Mario-SEs

This formation is pretty strong but we need a CB and an AM . If boa leaves then an extra RM , if SES leaves then another SS .
 

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Btw guys, what do you think about using a scheme similar to Bayern Munich?
4 - 4 - 1 - 1
DES/Abate Zapata Mexes Constant
KPB Monto DeJ Poli
Honda
Balotelli
 

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Btw guys, what do you think about using a scheme similar to Bayern Munich?
4 - 4 - 1 - 1
DES/Abate Zapata Mexes Constant
KPB Monto DeJ Poli
Honda
Balotelli


Bayern with no wingers and no attacking full backs? Yes please.
 

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In essence, 4-4-1-1 with wide attackers is everyone's current favourite 4-2-3-1. I'd obviously use a wide player like El Shaarawy there instead of Poli. And Boateng and Honda can seamlessly swap positions on-field. Otherwise, that's exactly what I think is our best formation. End product is not Bayern-like though.

------Monto--NdJ-------
--Boa-------------El Shaa--
---------Honda-------
--------Balotelli---------
 

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4-2-3-1 is the best for us :

Balo
SES-Honda-Saponara
Monto-De Jong
DES-Zapata-Mexes-Abate
Abbiati​
 

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4-2-3-1 is the best for us :

Balo
SES-Honda-Saponara
Monto-De Jong
DES-Zapata-Mexes-Abate
Abbiati​

It is a crime leaving poli on the bench...

4-3-2-1:

Abate Zapata Mexes De Sciglio
Montolivo De Jong Poli
Honda El shaarawy
Balotelli
 

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holy shit Balotelli is so fine a player we can play almost any form of 4-3-3 even a distorted 4-4-2.

I just love baloteli such a flexibility man . just cant wait
 

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If we only get Honda:

Shaarawy-Balotelli
--------Honda
--Poli-DeJong-Montolivo
-DeS-Zap-Mexes-Abate

Subs:
--------Robinho-Pazzini
-------------Saponara
------Boa10-Muntari-Cristante
Horse-Silvestre-Bonera-Antonini
------------Gabriel

Reserves: Nocerino, Zaccardo, Vergara, Niang
Squad size: 26


If we get Honda and Ljajic:

-----------Balotelli
Shaarawy-Honda-Ljajic
------DeJong-Montolivo
-DeS-Zapata-Mex-Abate
-----------Abbiatti

Subs:
------------Pazzini
--------Sapo-Boa-Robinho
---------Muntari-Poli
Horse-Silvestre-Bonera-Antonini
------------Gabriel

Reserves: Cristante, Nocerino, Zaccardo, Vergara, Niang
Squad size: 27


In either case:
Loan: Petagna
Dispose/Freeze: Traore, Emanuelson, Amelia
 

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