The Rumour Commode IV

[guestposter]

Anyone who's read Ibra's book knows Pep has serious mental issues.
He's socially retarted and there's no way he could handle a squad with such a mix of personalities as Milan's. And I'm not thinking about Ibra here.

That being said, it wouldn't surprise me if he's looking for Italy if he leaves Barca. And Berlu, being who he is, would of course be interested.

It's gonna be an insane summer, that's for sure. This thread will implode.

so you're saying there will be a lot of action in the transfer market from the capello as director rumours, possible coaching change, B splashing 100m to bring WC talent in...? I remember the Mr X talk last year and the Tevez deal. Not getting wound up until I see it on the official Milan page. This thread will be entertaining but my expectations are low right now.

 

[milanator]

Its not only Ibra who potantially would have a problem with Pep, I think Cassano, Mexes and Boateng are someway not the same, but similar characters like Ibra, I doubt Pep could deal with them.

 

[MonsterKane]

Its not only Ibra who potantially would have a problem with Pep, I think Cassano, Mexes and Boateng are someway not the same, but similar characters like Ibra, I doubt Pep could deal with them.

Recht hast!

 

[Senatore_M84]

Berlusconi is not your regulation sugar daddy tantrum-throwing owner. He is an intelligent man who understands football very well, perhaps better than several coaches and directors around.

He has been with the game for decades now, and very successful decades to boot.

If he had the instinct to hire Sacchi and Capello and Ancelotti, and give them the players required to produce good-looking football which won titles as well, I'm sure he'll continue doing that. Whether it be with Allegri or with someone else.

All of this assuming that he hasn't turned senile yet. If he has, then there's no guarantee on anything.

Disagreed.

He reminds me of al davis, in NFL.

At ONE point he understood football well. But his times passed. He thinks like he's in the 1980s with regards to football. Get star, build around them etc. etc.

 

[Polotelli]

With Pep our team is going to look different

also every year new youth in first team

 

[Juicee]

Boateng leaving and getting Eriksen would be AWESOME.

That would be nice, having both would be awesome.

 

[Polotelli]

selling Prince? stupidest idea ever

 

[Dottore Joey]

I'm pre jizzing for Eriksen.

 

[Monsieur]

Pep gonna teach TS how to dive.

 

[Monsieur]

I'm pre jizzing for Eriksen.

 

[Dark Knight]

Pep here, now that's some super-serious trolling

If it does happen would be epic seeing how people retract all their previous pep hate posts .. although i m prettttyyyy sure this isnt gonna happen.. its another CESC WE CAN

Only positive i see from Pep coming here is we could finally spend.

And make Capello director please

No no no and NO.. no capello with Pep.. totalllllyyyy different people and i dont think pep would want another coach sort of looking over him.

Its not only Ibra who potantially would have a problem with Pep, I think Cassano, Mexes and Boateng are someway not the same, but similar characters like Ibra, I doubt Pep could deal with them.

In that case.. All of them can be sold.. Pep FTW!

Disagreed.

He reminds me of al davis, in NFL.

At ONE point he understood football well. But his times passed. He thinks like he's in the 1980s with regards to football. Get star, build around them etc. etc.

No idea about the NFL analogy (dont care about american sports ), but agreed 100% with the rest. Sacchi also said that, berlu is still about individuals rather than the collective.

 

[Moggster]

With Pep our team is going to look different

also every year new youth in first team

Lol no. Do you think Guardiola is a fucking wizard that pulls talents out of his hat? Get real. The Barca youth are overrated as shit - it's easy to look good when you're getting carried by a winning team of experienced players.

It's not like Galliani will get more money to spend if Pep (god forbid) came here, quite the opposite.

#StopGuardiola

In that case.. All of them can be sold.. Pep FTW!

Haha dumb, closeted bandwagoner. What are you? 13?

 

[Az.]

Lol no. Do you think Guardiola is a fucking wizard that pulls talents out of his hat? Get real. The Barca youth are overrated as shit - it's easy to look good when you're getting carried by a winning team of experienced players.It's not like Galliani will get more money to spend if Pep (god forbid) came here, quite the opposite.

#StopGuardiola

I hate Barca as much as the next guy,but thats a load of bollocks.Spain have the best youth system in the whole world,the way they train players is matched by none currently.

Dont look at Barca only,look at the youth products that are coming every year from all the rest of the teams.Spanish players have been dominating Europe/the world and club competitions for quite sometime now.

Now do i think if Pep comes here we will have instant results in the youth dep?No,but its a damn good start to bring coaches from there who know the system.We should do what the rest of Europe did in the 90`s,i .e barrow everything they can from the Italians.

 

[Master Smurf]

Fuck Pep - he rode Barca's back. Let him prove himself somewhere else. We would be like Inter giving Rafa the job because he had our stolen CL on his resume.

I dont have an issue with Silvio wanting individuals, its up to Galliani to fill out the team with players that complement the star(s). He has done OK. The issue is resigning oldies and then setting stupid standards like treble campaign. If he cant privately convince Silvio of a plan of action to make Milan successful on at least one front then he isnt doing his job.

Notice the last few years when we said we were placing emphasis solely on league. Now magically we pickup two free players (one injured and other unproven) and we were good enough to compete with anyone, Ibra is as good as Messi and CR7 - It wasnt Silvio spouting that but Galliani and Allegri.

Yes you have to pay the piper but you also have to tell the emperor that he is naked and this isnt the bunga bunga villa.

 

[Moggster]

I hate Barca as much as the next guy,but thats a load of bollocks.Spain have the best youth system in the whole world,the way they train players is matched by none currently.

Dont look at Barca only,look at the youth products that are coming every year from all the rest of the teams.Spanish players have been dominating Europe/the world and club competitions for quite sometime now.

Now do i think if Pep comes here we will have instant results in the youth dep?No,but its a damn good start to bring coaches from there who know the system.We should do what the rest of Europe did in the 90`s,i .e barrow everything they can from the Italians.

People here seem to think Guardiola invented La Masia and their entire style of play, it's laughable.

 

[Master Smurf]

@Az - Thiago is good, all the rest havent really panned out yet. Tello, Cuenca, Jefferson, Romeu, Bojan - we know them because they play(ed) for Barca but they havent really come through yet or may not reach this supposed level.

Their best players after Messi are probably Gio (gone) and Thiago and Pedro (but he was already 23 iirc)

 

[Dottore Joey]

You know all that Barcelona played possession football before Pep.

He just took them to the next level, and they got Messi

 

[Senatore_M84]

@Az - Thiago is good, all the rest havent really panned out yet. Tello, Cuenca, Jefferson, Romeu, Bojan - we know them because they play(ed) for Barca but they havent really come through yet or may not reach this supposed level.

Their best players after Messi are probably Gio (gone) and Thiago and Pedro (but he was already 23 iirc)

busquets?

 

[Christian]

o nvm

 

[benjamin]

Precisely fuck Pep. Get Rafa and we enter an era of utter dominance.

 

[Master Smurf]

You know all that Barcelona played possession football before Pep.

He just took them to the next level, and they got Messi

More by ditching the "senatores" Deco and Dinho to allow Messi, Xavi and Iniesta to come to the fore.

We dont have three killers unless El Shaarawy, Valoti and Fossati all take Capt. America super soldier serum this summer and give a double dose to Pato, he will be Eto'o

 

[jammin]

busquets?

he's in a different league all by himself.

 

[Master Smurf]

busquets?

Hate dat bitch

But yeah I will give you him even though I am not sure he would do so well in another team.

 

[Dark Knight]

Haha dumb, closeted bandwagoner. What are you? 13?

bandwagoner? arent they suppose to follow the guy who just got success .. and Pep just lost yesterday and is probably going to have a trophyless season. Closeted? arent they supposed to keep it hush hush? i am an open pep admirer since he took over barca. So keeping all that in mind and your unnecesasrily harsh tone i guess its you who should be answering the age related question.

Fuck Pep - he rode Barca's back. Let him prove himself somewhere else. .

hahah really? what had barca won in the 2 years after their cl win in 2006? Pep took the team in a different direct and made them well one of the greatest team ever. Hate barca all you want but how can you take credit away from pep?

You know all that Barcelona played possession football before Pep.

He just took them to the next level, and they got Messi

No they didnt, Xavi himself said i was the cancer of barca in rjikaard era. It was about physicality and speed and power not about keeping possession etc. Pull out their posession stats before Pep or just watch a couple of video tapes of their matches before pep.

 

[Christian]

More by ditching the "senatores" Deco and Dinho to allow Messi, Xavi and Iniesta to come to the fore.

We dont have three killers unless El Shaarawy, Valoti and Fossati all take Capt. America super soldier serum this summer and give a double dose to Pato, he will be Eto'o

Don't think it's as much about the personel changes as it is the philosophy. Ofcourse when they play against the best, then they also need the best. But they still cruise through the group stages of CL/Beat lesser opposition that most big teams find difficult to break down 4, 5 -0 using all their youth players. They can do this because the system the play and the philosophy they use (And pep perfected) is so damn solid.

 

[Master Smurf]

I am just saying its not all Pep - He isnt Mou that walked into Porto, into Chelsea and Inter and liftem them to the next level.

Pep is part of the universe that is Barcelona - yes he elevated it but everything was on his side. Can he do that somewhere else when it isnt the whole culture as Luis Enrique is trying to do at Roma.

 

[Dottore Joey]

No they didnt, Xavi himself said i was the cancer of barca in rjikaard era. It was about physicality and speed and power not about keeping possession etc. Pull out their posession stats before Pep or just watch a couple of video tapes of their matches before pep.

He didn't use Xavi because they had Deco who was one of the best in the world in his position.

They still played possession football.

 

[Master Smurf]

He also seems to forget that Xavi was ready to leave beloved Barca because he was buried on the bench.

Rijkaard and Dinho,Deco, Eto'o put them back on the map and now they want to rewrite history - typical

 

[Dark Knight]

I am just saying its not all Pep - He isnt Mou that walked into Porto, into Chelsea and Inter and liftem them to the next level.

Pep is part of the universe that is Barcelona - yes he elevated it but everything was on his side. Can he do that somewhere else when it isnt the whole culture as Luis Enrique is trying to do at Roma.

Well no one is saying he is going to make milan barca. That is same as saying if you give Sacchi this milan he cant make it milan of 88/89 hence he is nothing special. He has taken barca to a level that Sacchi himself said that in his lifetime he has seen only 3 tactical revolutions in football. One was holland 74, 2nd was his milan and 3rd pep's barca. and he is 100% right. Pep has done something special.

And i love mourinho but with mourinho you need much much much more money to spend then any other coach.

He didn't use Xavi because they had Deco who was one of the best in the world in his position.

They still played possession football.

No it wasnt this sort of passing and movement otherwise deco and dinho would have worked with pep too. And deco and xavi dont play the same position or the same way.

 

[Master Smurf]

Deco and Dinho were already huge stars set in their ways and didnt want to have to put in that much work that is why they had to go.

And do you think Pep could do what he did if he was at Bilbao? Him going to a different team you dont know how much money he will need unless you are going to give him 7-10 years to reform youth system.

And also have a Messi dropped in his lap.