The Rumour Commode

[drucurl]

Yeah, let's hope it's true, but somehow I doubt Mutu will leave Fiorentina to come play Uefa Loser Cup here, unless there's a huge financial gain to be had. (read we pay his debt to Chel$ki)

Parting from Bonera means we need to replace him with another defender that is minimum as good as him (Zapata?)

NO NO NOOOOOOOOO Let Brocchi go back to the only place he played well and let's NOT sell Bonera! Bonera has lots of quality and can be very very good if not a great player. Why get an almost-spent force in Mutu for the future cycle with Bonera...I guess I shouldn't complain since I was willing to accpet Drogba!!

 

[Lisa]

Not only does an eleven year old have his own thread, but it already has three pages.
Goodness, if you want to open a thread for an eleven year old, why not Christian Maldini.

 

[1899vladimir]

NO NO NOOOOOOOOO Let Brocchi go back to the only place he played well and let's NOT sell Bonera! Bonera has lots of quality and can be very very good if not a great player. Why get an almost-spent force in Mutu for the future cycle with Bonera...I guess I shouldn't complain since I was willing to accpet Drogba!!

I agree with you, completely about bonera. he had exelent 2 seasons with milan + he can play bouth as a CB AND SB

 

[Mr. Anonymous]

Yeah, let's hope it's true, but somehow I doubt Mutu will leave Fiorentina to come play Uefa Loser Cup here, unless there's a huge financial gain to be had. (read we pay his debt to Chel$ki)

Parting from Bonera means we need to replace him with another defender that is minimum as good as him (Zapata?)

Zapata is a must regardless of who comes or leaves.

He's young, already proved to be good, will only get better and more expensive in future and we have a HUGE need in his position.

He played REALLY well against earlier this week against...I think it was France.

 

[adriancg]

Perfect. Give away our good subs. I hope Bonera doesn't leave. :/

Sure he's not a ****ing wall made out of tigers like Nesta but he gets the job done fairly well IMO.

 

[Az.]

NO NO NOOOOOOOOO Let Brocchi go back to the only place he played well and let's NOT sell Bonera! Bonera has lots of quality and can be very very good if not a great player. Why get an almost-spent force in Mutu for the future cycle with Bonera...I guess I shouldn't complain since I was willing to accpet Drogba!!

yeah i dont want him to go either but betwen bonnera and Mutu its only a 2 year difference of age..so not that much for the future either of them ..but Mutu can give us 5 good seasons be sure of that,and can play st /amc and on wings if needed .

 

[Velez Mostar]

we should send them brocchi in exchange. I think he can handle playing w/ the U12 albanian team

Ey man cut the crap will'ya, this is a serious thread.

We should at least send the Albanian team a reasonable offer, instead of Brocchi.
Maybe the Albanians even would consider the offer if we offered 'em R.Oliveira, Seedorf + 10mil £. I hope Braida can seal this deal a.s.a.p. !

 

[ecI]

Bonera has to stay.

 

[siatanhai]

Bonera has to stay.

do the management see something i dnt, we are not in a position to sell a defender who can play RB/CB when simic looks like leaving for galatasaray ans cafu gone we need the depth, it not as if we are graced with too many defenders, this is ridiculous lol

 

[Scout milanista]

Nothing special.Everyone Can Do It.

Please !!!!
Did u see video?
He`s 11 years old and can do C.Ronaldo, Ronaldinho Zizu tricks.
Can do goals and bring goals to his team . He`s a leader in his team and can become a leader of Future Milan

 

[Scout milanista]

Not only does an eleven year old have his own thread, but it already has three pages.
Goodness, if you want to open a thread for an eleven year old, why not Christian Maldini.

Christian is already ours and Erli not

 

[Scout milanista]

Velez Mostar
Hey man dont u think that u hate cause he`s from Albania.

 

[Senatore_M84]

well theyre not ******ed... We'll have to sign new defenders. which could be great. could also be bad. Cesar....still open on a free

 

[Jivara]

man are you serious? hes just 11, he was breast feeding a few years back, this kid is still a baby... why does he have a thread here? ok for a baby he looks talented but hes a baby i really dont care if we sign him or not i would when he reaches puberty but for now im looking for someone else to solve our problems not a little nipper. this should be moved to discussion or something, even if he does join its not an official transfer its just like any other kid who joins a team.

 

[Jivara]

double post

 

[Jivara]

yeah. with that squad and carlo on bench we will end in serie B.

im talking of the players we currently have + mancini genius, get brain or get brain

 

[Jivara]

29 years old... when will our management learn

so now 29 years is old? what do you want 11 year olds like erli cupi?

 

[MaldiniISgod]

do the management see something i dnt, we are not in a position to sell a defender who can play RB/CB when simic looks like leaving for galatasaray ans cafu gone we need the depth, it not as if we are graced with too many defenders, this is ridiculous lol

we got digao dude, relax.

 

[Senatore_M84]

so now 29 years is old? what do you want 11 year olds like erli cupi?

I've been very consistant with my stance. We have enoguh players 28-34. Lets bring in some 18-24 year olds to learn from them and take over as the next generation of milan. What does 15+ mil for mutu gain us? He's good.... but we'll need to replace in 3-4 years anyway and it'll cost more in the long run.

We're not even in champions league. Its not like we need to make 1-2 signing to secure our team like Man Utd.

 

[siatanhai]

we got digao dude, relax.

unfortunately hes not that sort of standard like eg zapata, what will we do 2 tears from now play digao??

 

[Scout milanista]

man are you serious? hes just 11, he was breast feeding a few years back, this kid is still a baby... why does he have a thread here? ok for a baby he looks talented but hes a baby i really dont care if we sign him or not i would when he reaches puberty but for now im looking for someone else to solve our problems not a little nipper. this should be moved to discussion or something, even if he does join its not an official transfer its just like any other kid who joins a team.

man Milan avarage age is 30 y old.
This baby will be man after few years. Pato is a baby, Paloschi too etc....
But do u remember that Pato cost us 22mln so one day he can cost mln.
He cant solve our problems in this moment . But Messi didnt solve Barcelona problems when Barca signed him in 2001(even he does join its not an official transfer its just like any other kid who joins a team, Messi was a kid who joins a team)

 

[magashi]

so now 29 years is old?

29yo is a temporary fix, what we've been getting lately If you want to build a team for the future, you get 25-26yo AT MOST, if not younger. Everything else speaks of either incompetence or lack of ambition. Of course, there are some exceptions, but when your transfer campaign includes a 31yo defender, a 28 midfielder and a 30yo striker, they are not exceptions anymore.

I would be okay with signing Zambrotta OR Dinho OR <random 30 yo player>, but if he's the exception and we also sign other 4-5 younger players. Hell, I'm okay with two of them in that situation. But when a 24yo Flamini is THE exception and the rest of our signings are close to the end of their careers, I'm not okay.

My 2 cents, not that anyone cares, now flame me if you please.

 

[Jivara]

after a few years? try a decade.. pato is old enough to tie his own shoe this kid needs strap laces, i dont care if we sign him or not, sign him, better than not signing him, who gives a shit, when hes good enough then i will give a shit but for now hes a baby

 

[Sasha]

Please !!!!
Did u see video?
He`s 11 years old and can do C.Ronaldo, Ronaldinho Zizu tricks.
Can do goals and bring goals to his team . He`s a leader in his team and can become a leader of Future Milan

We should offer Kaka!!!!!1one!11

 

[Senatore_M84]

29yo is a temporary fix, what we've been getting lately If you want to build a team for the future, you get 25-26yo AT MOST, if not younger. Everything else speaks of either incompetence or lack of ambition. Of course, there are some exceptions, but when your transfer campaign includes a 31yo defender, a 28 midfielder and a 30yo striker, they are not exceptions anymore.

I would be okay with signing Zambrotta OR Dinho OR <random 30 yo player>, but if he's the exception and we also sign other 4-5 younger players. Hell, I'm okay with two of them in that situation. But when a 24yo Flamini is THE exception and the rest of our signings are close to the end of their careers, I'm not okay.

My 2 cents, not that anyone cares, now flame me if you please.

WELL SAID

 

[Jivara]

I've been very consistant with my stance. We have enoguh players 28-34. Lets bring in some 18-24 year olds to learn from them and take over as the next generation of milan. What does 15+ mil for mutu gain us? He's good.... but we'll need to replace in 3-4 years anyway and it'll cost more in the long run.

We're not even in champions league. Its not like we need to make 1-2 signing to secure our team like Man Utd.

what are you talking about, you forget really quick, weve had an old team for years now, and they won alot remember, its not the kids at arsenal who won, its our oldies, so oldies are proven, experience counts as much as any attribute you want to mention maybe even more, and why do you want just kids in our team, i have a suggestion for you since you like kids so much, no im not gonna tell you support arsenal, just support the primavera team they will always be young for ever and ever so you will be happy for ever and ever. and another thing do you completely ignore the number of youngsters we have signed? you act as if we only have oldies in our team, i think we have some of the best youth prospects in the world in our team, pato and paloschi as well as a shitload of others who are gaining experience at other teams such as gourcuff, abate, pozzi, antonini... etc... plus we signed kaka when he was a kid and gilardino too, one of them worked out the other failed miserably eventhough we coughed up alot of money for him. my point is, you should worry about how talented the player we sign not how old he is, you dont win the league by being the youngest team in the league you win by having the best players and we have problems that are ever so present so i want to solve them now i dont want to make a master plan for the next 5 years i have no time for our little kids to grow up and learn from their fuck ups while the rest of the world stomps on our asses.

 

[Scout milanista]

after a few years? try a decade.. pato is old enough to tie his own shoe this kid needs strap laces, i dont care if we sign him or not, sign him, better than not signing him, who gives a shit, when hes good enough then i will give a shit but for now hes a baby

A baby was Messi in 2001, A baby was Pato in 2005 , A baby was Balotelli in 2005 .......
I want a star from `primavera` that has played with Milan since youngster like Baresi,Maldini etc...

 

[Jivara]

29yo is a temporary fix, what we've been getting lately If you want to build a team for the future, you get 25-26yo AT MOST, if not younger. Everything else speaks of either incompetence or lack of ambition. Of course, there are some exceptions, but when your transfer campaign includes a 31yo defender, a 28 midfielder and a 30yo striker, they are not exceptions anymore.

I would be okay with signing Zambrotta OR Dinho OR <random 30 yo player>, but if he's the exception and we also sign other 4-5 younger players. Hell, I'm okay with two of them in that situation. But when a 24yo Flamini is THE exception and the rest of our signings are close to the end of their careers, I'm not okay.

My 2 cents, not that anyone cares, now flame me if you please.

you think this is pes2008 master league where seasons pass by within a matter of weeks? this is football, you know you score more goals and concede less you win? its not some sort of easter hunt where you have to get as much youngsters as you can before the others get them, who told you signing 4-5 young players will solve our problems? just like you think ronaldinho and zambrotta and i dont know will not solve our problems i can say the same about your dudes but with more logic iinto it because as you know this football is real, experience counts, and experience wins you stuff, when a player like ronaldinho and zambrotta is put in a tense situation where theyre up against some mean opposition and any mistake counts they know how to deal with it better than a naive kiddo who will end up embarassing himself by crying on live tv for wasting his chance to shine.

 

[Senatore_M84]

some players take longer to mature. some players are the flavor of the week. But there are ALOT of young talented players i can garentee barring injury will be class.... It doesnt take a genius to see Benzema will be a great striker. It doesnt take a genius to see quaresma is 1 of the most talented wingers in the world. I'm sure everyone who saw ronaldo or nani at sporting would say they would be good.

Yes we've won with exerience but the same team we've had was anchored by pirlo, gattuso in middle in there mid 20s. Sheva in his mid to late 20s. A young Kaka, a prime Inzaghi, a younger Nesta, a time-defying Maldini. Those teams had exerience no doubt, but they had.

Lets look at 2003 Milan team that won scudetto and CL.
Dida (30)
costacurta (37)--Nesta (27)--Maldini (34)--kalatze (25)

---Gattuso (25)--Pirlo (24)--Seedorf (27)-------

---------------Rui Costa (31)-------------------

-----Sheva (26)---------Pippo (28)--------

(these are ages at date of CL final.. aka END OF SEASON)

2 years later, basically same team w/ kaka inserted. The balance of players in there prime is staggering. Now look at our team, it doesnt take a genius to say they are TOOOOOO OLD.

Jivara, you are right you need exerience to win. But your teams core needs to be built on players 24-28, guys with endless fitness but enough exerience to not make stupid mistakes. Its the difference between MAnUtd and Arsenal (I hate to keep using epl analogieS....but theyve clearly dominated europe last 2 seasons)

you cannot win, ESPECIALLY in league with almost all your starts being 30 and the same on your bench... its just not possible w/ how physically demanding it is. Not everyone is a freak like maldini and can play that well into there mid30s. Most players decline fast once they surpass 30... ESPECIALLY UPFRONT when you lose pass, strength. (coughSHEVAcough....) Even pippo, he can still read the game and score, but how often? 15 games a season? Thats really all he gives us....

 

[Jivara]

true, so why are you complaining over a 29 year old player? that is not old, if hes not 30 something then he is not old, 29 years means he has atleast 4 years in him. and besides, you and the rest of your pedophile bunch (joke dont get angry ) should be glad since what you guys really want is some excitement inn the transfer market, you just want to see us being linked with this and that, so if a player lasts for a shorter time then we have to replace him sooner than if we have 10 kiddos who are going to be 'the future of milan' and will stay like that for 10 years with the only signings going to be free agents like vogel and dhorasso before. personally i prefer to sign an experience late 20s player for something around 15-20m instead of spending something like 40m on an unproven player who is 20-23 y.o. but each to his own i guess