UEFA Champions League 2012 - 2013

[ww]

I don't wanna see bayern or borussia in the finals, fuck that, I wanna see the heat between real and barça

 

[Dark Knight]

perfect draw .. i wanted exactly this draw, didnt think dortmund could beat barca, but bayern can..

#bundes-final

 

[Milaniscool]

This is the draw I have been hoping for, Dortmund have already proved they can handle Madrid, and Bayern are the best team to beat Barcelona.

 

[Jasper]

#bundes-final

Football's coming home ...

 

[Christian]

I just saw the highlights of the Dortmund vs Malaga match. Those last two Dortmund goals...the first one wasn't offside, as the most central Malaga defender (looked like Demichelis from the distance) was a little behind the defensive line, thus keeping the forward-most Dortmund player ON. Was a clear goal.

However, the next goal was OFFSIDE by yards, and lots of them. The player who eventually stroked the ball to Santana to tap in was the culprit. Even at that, the Malaga defence made a mess there, esp. Antunes. But to be fair to them, they were waiting for the rightful offside call and weren't so alert.

That was so noobish of them. You keep playing till you hear that whistle. You can't let your concentration slip, even for a moment. There's no time to catch a breath, then. Esp. at the 94th minute of a match INFINITELY IMPORTANT to your club. Esp. on a stage as MIGHTY as the Champions League. Esp. in the quarter finals. Esp. when you braved SO MUCH to get that far.

One thing I noticed in those late goals was Dortmund's set-piece skill. The first, legitimate, goal was from an indirect free-kick. The next, illegitimate, goal was from a short, quick throw-in. Set-piece practice DOES make the difference at times like that.

Eliseu's goal was also offside, though it wasn't offside twice like the last Dortmund goal; i'm not sure how this affects who wins morally.

 

[Corzioli]

Chris, sorry but I don't think you made any sense. Or maybe you didn't stress your point properly.

I had to watch Eliseu's goal like four times, freeze-frame and all, just to be sure. And I'll tell you this: he WASN'T offside. Of course, Julio was in the clear, JIC.

An offside call is determined THE INSTANT THE PASS IS MADE, and this is relative to the receiver of the pass. When the pass was made to Baptista, he was on, and it was at this point that Eliseu OUTRAN THE OFFSIDE TRAP.

Understand this. A player who is intelligent and pacy enough to determine the last defender's 'line' and the overall movement of all the defenders (usually the CBs, rarely alongside the FBs and almost never with WBs) and factor this in a well-timed RUN, is right. He (or she) beat the offside trap in that case, and play continues.

IOW, Eliseu's goal was legit, and Baptista's assist was genius.



I don't know where I ever mentioned the morality of Dortmund's victory in my post.

 

[KujaIX]

Eliseu was offside.

When Baptista passed the ball, Eliseu was ahead of the last defender.

When the ball was passed to Baptista is irrelevant.

 

[Corzioli]

Opinions are like arseholes...

EOD.

 

[KujaIX]

It's not an opinion, it's a fact.

Eliseu was offside, Baptista was not, but when Baptista received the ball is irrelevant.

 

[Corzioli]

Now get this. I explained it previously but I'll get at that AGAIN.

Eliseu outran the offside trap. Of course, Baptista's position wasn't offside SO I WAS REFERRING TO ELISEU, who scored the goal in contention.

He beat the offside trap cleanly and received the NICE inclined pass at the far post. And tapped in.

???

 

[luke07]

corz you don't understand offside rule

my god

 

[Corzioli]

Enlighten me, Ashish.

I'm all eyes.

 

[Calum1903]

Would Bayern have the nerve to step up and press Barca? They'll be fucked if they let Barca push them deep.

 

[Dominate]

Corz your an idiot

He was offside

WHEN THE BALL IS PLAYED

That means the pass from Baptista to Elisu, in which case Elisu was ahead of the last defender and therefore offside

 

[Armin__m]

Now get this. I explained it previously but I'll get at that AGAIN.

Eliseu outran the offside trap. Of course, Baptista's position wasn't offside SO I WAS REFERRING TO ELISEU, who scored the goal in contention.

He beat the offside trap cleanly and received the NICE inclined pass at the far post. And tapped in.

???

It was offside, I was pretty sure about it without even watching a single replay. You either don`t know the offside rule or are very biased..

 

[Casualista]

was he in line with the ball? Hard to tell.

 

[jammin]

Would Bayern have the nerve to step up and press Barca? They'll be fucked if they let Barca push them deep.

I want to see how they'll play without the majority of possession, probably for the first time in ages, for them.

 

[Corzioli]

You guys amaze me, seriously...

But, no, I'm not surprised. I know why. If I stated that it (Eliseu's goal) was offside from the start, the whole forums would go:

"Corz ur an idiot
Didnt u c how he beat the last defender
He beat teh offside trap so d goal is not offside
U idiot moron minstrel ******ed fuck, what do u know "

Really. RBF loves Corz, hahahaha.

Before, this got me stressed out. Now, it just makes me laugh real hard. AAA comic relief.

Who's the next to make Corz look like a fool? To disprove every single thing he posts?

 

[Congo Powers]

i lafffff gardolaaa

barca purple and blueeeee

 

[Casualista]

gardola is coach of munich in 2 months.

no more assosciations with burtha.

 

[jammin]

@Tfat, put on Ten Action right now. Carlton Palmer and the Scottish Barca fan pundit throwing out some classic stuff.

"Barca missed Mascherano more than Messi".

 

[FredX]

It's not an opinion, it's a fact.

Eliseu was offside, Baptista was not

Wrong! It depends on what angle you're viewing from.

 

[Dominate]

So is a fact what is perceived by a person to be correct

Or is it a fundamental truth that applies to us all

 

[FredX]

So is a fact what is perceived by a person to be correct

Yes.

 

[Dominate]

personally I think a fact is something that is truth, it cannot be disputed by anyone else as it is true

 

[FredX]

personally I think a fact is something that is truth, it cannot be disputed by anyone else as it is true

That's not true. Check your facts.

 

[Shiby]

So is a fact what is perceived by a person to be correct

Or is it a fundamental truth that applies to us all

A fact is that Ibra has never won a CL.

Freds fact is that Ibra is the best player in the world.

So it depends really.

 

[Dominate]

That's not true. Check your facts.

go fuck yourself

 

[Casualista]

A fact is that Ibra has never won a CL.

Freds fact is that Ibra is the best player in the world.

So it depends really.

but... but... league is harder to win... ucl is all luck u know... draws and shit.

 

[FredX]

A fact is that Ibra has never won a CL.

Freds fact is that Ibra is the best player in the world.

My facts are facts. Everything else is just opionion.

Zlatan has won the league 10 times in the last 11 years.
In 6 clubs and 4 countries.
A CL trophy isn't much compared to that.

That is a fact.