Andrea Pirlo Thread

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agreed. Allegri as a tactician has failed this season. I'll give him brownie points for resilience but as a tactician he failed. He has become unbelievably rigid this season compared to last which is a worrying sign i found. Compare that to conte who keeps changing from 3-4-3 to 3-4-1-2 to 4-3-3 etc.

Tactical variations. Must have.
 

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Coming back to Pirlo, whether his departure affected our season or not (I agree that it did not), we directly strengthened our rival significantly. In retrospect, terrible decision to let him go to Juve.

But then, I wonder what Galliani could have done. Allegri didnt want Pirlo to be central - fine, Pirlo wanted a central role - fine, He wouldnt have signed a contract without assured key role - fine, So we had to let go of him - fine... In this situation, if he picks Juve ahead of any other team, there was simply nothing we could have done.
 

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Cassano is a brilliant player. But comparing his assists stats to those of a central midfielder is a little short-sighted + pointless in this debate. Pirlo has shown quality throughout his career. For Milan, for Italy and now for Juve. What did these teams have in common? They were built on systems that maximized Pirlo's skillzzset and covered his shortcomings.

I think a lot of false opinion has been taken as fact all through Pirlo's career on these boards. First there was the myth that Pirlo couldn't play without Gattuso. Safe to say, thats gone out the window. Then second there's the false opinion that Pirlo "didn't give a shit" after Athens 07. While he may not have been as motivated throughout a season as before, he was pivotal for us getting past the group stages in 07-08 + remember that European Super Cup? Carlo's last season saw a rare case of him being injured for a long spell, and I thought he did play well under Leo. Certainly he and Clarence were our standout performers in the middle.

The problem with Milan was that we had Ambro/Gattuso and co. pushing forward, while Pirlo stayed back deep. It didn't make sense to have him play there anymore. So yes, bringing VBoss into the fray helped us experiment for half a season. And while VBoss started well, he made quite a few errors towards the end of the season. And in fact, while a lot of people here give him credit for that Scudetto, Clarence post Spurs was simply BOSSing the midfield.

This season, VBoss has been missing a step ... Clarence hasn't had any sort of continuity. Noce has been an average signing (still a very good one by the way) and Aquilani hasn't showed up. Few cameos here and there, but nothing consistent.

We should have thought it clearly. We were replacing a player who guaranteed consistency. He had been playing a lot throughout his Milan career, being injured 2-3 times for long spells during the space of a decade. VBoss couldn't give us this, and a few of us (me) saw this all the way from last season.

Our midfield is in shambles, especially now with VBoss going. I just hope Monty steps up to the plate as I wouldn't mind him playing the anchor role and us going back to the DLPBS. As getting a quality anchor would require another quality b2b creative CM to play opposite Monty.

That will be expensive, but even better (and more expensive) would be to push KPB into RCM + buy a quality AM.

Thing is, whoever we bring in, we need to get something resembling continuity in central midfield. They way how Pirlo, Gattuso, Ambro and Clarence used to seamlessly switch roles and positions in midfield was a joy to watch. They knew each other so well because they played together for so long. This should be our aim and target as we look to rebuild perhaps the most important part of our team ... the midfield.
 

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pirlo has been vital for jube, but whoever credits him for their league title is underrating jube

conte + all the players deserve credit like the fairy


conte being THE main reason the competed for the league.
 

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Yes.

Reason 1 - The difference between Conte and Allegri
Reason 2 - Vidal-Pirlo-Marchisio
Reason 3 - The new stadium and related motivation. Their home record has been brilliant.
 

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Yes of course credit must go to Conte who realized Pirlo's undoubted potential right from the word go. I don't blame Allegri for not doing likewise, seeing our squad had reached a point where it was almost completely incompatible with Pirlo.

BUT ... I can assure you all that had Pirlo stayed, we would be celebrating a Scudetto right about now, conceding less simply because we would have had more possession.
 

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BUT ... I can assure you all that had Pirlo stayed, we would be celebrating a Scudetto right about now, conceding less simply because we would have had more possession.

He lacked motivation here (which he says himself multiple times), so I disagree: unmotivated players are worthless.
 

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I despise that fuck conte, but he's miles ahead of allegri.
 

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BUT ... I can assure you all that had Pirlo stayed, we would be celebrating a Scudetto right about now, conceding less simply because we would have had more possession.



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who will partner/shield him in Nationale btw? if Prandelli want build MF around pirlo (4312) then marchissio guaranteed, who will play in right side? its de rossi?
 

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He lacked motivation here (which he says himself multiple times), so I disagree: unmotivated players are worthless.
Pirlo is a professional. He would have gotten his act together had Allegri thought about his options more clearly.

My point is ... everyone agreed that Pirlo needed a bodyguard. That he was useless defensively and we needed a more orthodox anchor to protect and aging/experimental defense.

The answer = :star: BOSS :star:

Now people are saying that Boss didn't have enough protection and he could do it all by himself :proud:

So ... what has happened is that we have lost a lot of creativity in the middle for apparently NO GAIN.

Simply put, Pirlo was replaced incorrectly. What Milan should look for is the anchor that VBoss never was. Someone of Makelele's mold, who alone could protect the defense, giving freedom for the wide central midfielders to push forward and support the attack and cover fullbacks when they are in advanced positions. VBoss cannot do that anymore, and if it hadn't been for Gattuso last term, wouldn't even then.

Whats the difference between what people said about Pirlo and whats happening now? I can also say that VBoss is a pussy that missed his bodyguard.
 

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greatkalu needs to stop being a whiny bitch that makes this pirlo vs MVB because it's not.


it's Milan's managament being the worst management in the world atm, failing to improve after winning a title is the worst thing you can do.
 

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There is a realistic Ballon D'Or chance here actually, if Italy manages to upset the odds and win the Euro. It would be incredibly saddening if Pirlo manages to win that with Juventus.

Like @tancredipalmeri said in twitter last night,

Analysis of Serie A 2011-2012.Milan let Pirlo sign for Juventus.End of analysis

We are winning the euros :star:Pirlo- Gio-Balo:star:.. i hope pirlo gets the ballon d'or

Very nice analysis from the twitter guy:D
 

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We had 5-6 years of unmotivated Pirlo so unless you can read the future you wont know how will he perform in Juve.
Marchisio & Vidal are better than our entire midfield & they can easily pass the ball around so juve adding one more good midfielder could have gave you a much better Juve than Pirlo's.
And then we would still lose the title while having a 5mil unmotivated Pirlo to stick around for three years getting paid to have a walk on the pitch not giving a shit.
Hunt is kicking ass in Germany so are you regretting that also ?
Letting go of a 30+ dont give a shit player is always good even if he perform good.

Our problem wasnt gifting Pirlo to Juve or loosing him.
It was a combination of bad luck & mediocrity specially in midfield.
Say all you want about Allegri or Juve but despite all the shit players we had we would have still kicked their ass if we didnt get such an injury crisis & referees mistakes.
Bad luck was also that Juve didnt have any.
That said , next season with G&B is gonna make us think this season was heaven.

This, to then have him working his socks off in a team of Gattuso's is what leaves the bitter taste in the mouth.

Pirlo: "I believed I could be number 1 & I think I demonstrated that. I hope to play for many more years because I enjoy what I do."

I never missed him when he was leaving and I certainly don't miss him now. Hopefully he and Conte share the same follicle-related troubles as Congo said.
 

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messi plays in shit league.. he hasnt done anything for argies and all that.
 

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greatkalu needs to stop being a whiny bitch that makes this pirlo vs MVB because it's not.


it's Milan's managament being the worst management in the world atm, failing to improve after winning a title is the worst thing you can do.
Milan's management made a mistake yes ... because they let go of Pirlo and replaced him with VBoss. No matter how you twist it, VBoss replaced Pirlo.
Silly.

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Pirlo grinning on us.
Wouldn't you also grin on your previous employer after he showed no faith in you despite close to a decade of service? I think credit is due to him ... he has answered all his critics.
 

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Milan's management made a mistake yes ... because they let go of Pirlo and replaced him with VBoss. No matter how you twist it, VBoss replaced Pirlo.

Wouldn't you also grin on your previous employer after he showed no faith in you despite close to a decade of service? I think credit is due to him ... he has answered all his critics.

Those who said he didn't try enough? But now he tries? Did he really silence those? Fuck off Pirlo. You lazy fucking turd.
 

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Those who said he didn't try enough? But now he tries? Did he really silence those? Fuck off Pirlo. You lazy fucking turd.

:star::star::star::star::star::star:
 

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wow so many new discussions here
 

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Suit yourself. Pirlo had planned this all along. Played like crap at Milan on purpose before moving to Juve and having a good season. Yes. Thats the truth. Explains everything completely. Fuck Pirlo :mad: The reason why we didn't win anything post 07 :thumbsup:
 

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Has he said anything about us post winning the scudetto?
 

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