Week 10: Milan 1-1 Lazio SS 30/10/2013

[Qaas]

All teams are 'hard to beat' in Serie A. Well, to a relative degree. That's why they're in Serie A. But there are only a handful with a squad better than ours. Lazio is not one of them. Nor is Bologna. Or Parma. Or Torino. Or Hellas.

How long are you gonna tell us "we were unlucky" or "we must've beaten them" or "we played well" despite shitty results? (And they are shitty.) If you can't get results despite the team playing well, you know what that means? It means you're not good enough. You can't get results from them. So why don't you fuck right off?

I'll respect someone who says "yeah. We screwed up. I am sorry. We'll do better next time". But not someone who doesn't have the balls to stand up for himself. Lazio, to be fair, defended well and broke very effectively today. They ganged up on the mouth of the penalty box and only rarely let us near the goal. The ref wasn't great, especially in the first half, and he should've given us a couple of free-kicks right outside the box.

But still, we should have won. This is exactly the kind of game big teams must be accustomed to. Breaking down smaller teams that park the bus comes with the territory of being a big club. But Allegri won't hear of it. No sir. We played well. The ref fucked us. The free-kick was 278 metres too near. Half my first team is out injured.

Fix it, asshole! That's what you get paid for! Fucking idiot.

@kujaIx

 

[Curupira]

All teams are 'hard to beat' in Serie A. Well, to a relative degree. That's why they're in Serie A. But there are only a handful with a squad better than ours. Lazio is not one of them. Nor is Bologna. Or Parma. Or Torino. Or Hellas.

How long are you gonna tell us "we were unlucky" or "we must've beaten them" or "we played well" despite shitty results? (And they are shitty.) If you can't get results despite the team playing well, you know what that means? It means you're not good enough. You can't get results from them. So why don't you fuck right off?

I'll respect someone who says "yeah. We screwed up. I am sorry. We'll do better next time". But not someone who doesn't have the balls to stand up for himself. Lazio, to be fair, defended well and broke very effectively today. They ganged up on the mouth of the penalty box and only rarely let us near the goal. The ref wasn't great, especially in the first half, and he should've given us a couple of free-kicks right outside the box.

But still, we should have won. This is exactly the kind of game big teams must be accustomed to. Breaking down smaller teams that park the bus comes with the territory of being a big club. But Allegri won't hear of it. No sir. We played well. The ref fucked us. The free-kick was 278 metres too near. Half my first team is out injured.

Fix it, asshole! That's what you get paid for! Fucking idiot.

Well to be fair, Allegri never had a clue how to break down teams who are parking the bus. So its not something you should expect out of him...

 

[Username]

Missed the game. Anyone mind giving me a brief summary about it? Like, did Kaká play volleyball again?

 

[albmovi]

 

[Albertini]

By this stage I am getting evil thoughts like Berlusconi having a heart attack and his son selling the club

Lord forgive me but please do something about this tragedy

+1 i actually googled his age a couple of weeks ago. its a terrible thought but he can't live forever.

 

[Dawn]

#MilanLazio: 30.212 spectators were at San Siro tonight. 23.940 season ticket holders and 6.272 bought single tickets.

 

[yagami7gnr]

+1 i actually googled his age a couple of weeks ago. its a terrible thought but he can't live forever.

Where is our youth movement?
He takes Birsa off to put his boy Matri.

Quite frankly the only one that follows #YouthMovement is Berlusconi, if you know what I mean....

 

[Ross O. Neri]

Indeed it's a bad result but it was a serviceable performance, Lazio's goal was a matter of inches so I don't think there's anything that can be taken from it.

In truth, I think today's performance is an accurate reflection of how Allegri wants the team to play, attacks involved up to 6 players so there's good spread and many options, which is a necessary evil against stubborn defences. If the ball is lost, the nearest 3 form a press that either regains the ball or buys some time for others to return. It's certainly a tiring style but it embodies Allegri's attack & defend as a team mentality.

Milan have enough midfield control in most games to create 4-5 good chances and generally this should be enough to win a match, this was on display today with the goal and a couple Kaka off-targets, the other half-chances are missed because the players aren't timing or missing entirely good positioned teammates (Muntari and Balotelli on a few occasions).

My conclusion, therefore is that complaints on unstructured attacks are unfounded, with more games and adequate revision of recent games I believe that these half-chances can become whole as the players become more comfortable in attacking in numbers (it can be daunting choosing, at pace the right option from many). Ideally this would already have been resolved, but it should be made easier with someone as clever as Kaka in the mix.

 

[Italian Tsar]

Well to be fair, Allegri never had a clue how to break down teams who are parking the bus. So its not something you should expect out of him...

Then he should just take off. Giving us heart-attacks every second weekend

 

[Jivara]

+1 i actually googled his age a couple of weeks ago. its a terrible thought but he can't live forever.

Unless he has the potion that guarantees eternal life we should get back on track within 5 years assume. I just wonder how much more can he embarrass himself within these remaining years of his, he basically did everything wrong a person can do.

 

[Goodfella]

Milan should be playing to an empty stadium. who in their right mind would show up to watch this garbage let alone spend your hard earned money on it.

The fact the stadium is more than half empty is one of the reasons the games are so depressing to watch or play in. It saddens/unmotivates/distracts the players, makes Milan into one of those Russian teams only money whores would enjoy playing for, because everything else is depressing. Makes everything about the club much more depressing and worse than it should be.

Just look at last season's CL. We played Anderlecht, Malaga and Zenit at home in a 2/3 empty San Siro. Didn't win any of those depressing games. Our first and only home victory came in the 1/8 against Barca, in a packed and noisy San Siro.


As much as I find the management incompetent and the squad badly constructed...the worst thing about this club are the fans.

Go fuck yourself.

 

[Sven]

Indeed it's a bad result but it was a serviceable performance, Lazio's goal was a matter of inches so I don't think there's anything that can be taken from it.

In truth, I think today's performance is an accurate reflection of how Allegri wants the team to play, attacks involved up to 6 players so there's good spread and many options, which is a necessary evil against stubborn defences. If the ball is lost, the nearest 3 form a press that either regains the ball or buys some time for others to return. It's certainly a tiring style but it embodies Allegri's attack & defend as a team mentality.

Milan have enough midfield control in most games to create 4-5 good chances and generally this should be enough to win a match, this was on display today with the goal and a couple Kaka off-targets, the other half-chances are missed because the players aren't timing or missing entirely good positioned teammates (Muntari and Balotelli on a few occasions).

My conclusion, therefore is that complaints on unstructured attacks are unfounded, with more games and adequate revision of recent games I believe that these half-chances can become whole as the players become more comfortable in attacking in numbers (it can be daunting choosing, at pace the right option from many). Ideally this would already have been resolved, but it should be made easier with someone as clever as Kaka in the mix.

I like your posts

 

[USC]

Today it was 42000. Though I agree with that the next home game will probably be 30000

That was not 42,000. Are you kidding me? The stadium was insanely empty. It was at best 29,000. I'm sure that the big number is paid attendance and the little number is asses in seats.

Now that I agree with. Zaccardo is solid. Funny people were all worried about Zaccardo. IMO, we should worry more about us in the attacking final third rather than Zaccardo.

My stream was not the best quality, but one of the defenders was nowhere to be found on Lazio's equalizer. De Jong misplayed the area, but there was zero cover.

#MilanLazio: 30.212 spectators were at San Siro tonight. 23.940 season ticket holders and 6.272 bought single tickets.

Looks like my 29,000 was pretty much spot on. To be fair, it was raining, a Wednesday, and the team sucks.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

u expect fans to come and watch the games live when morons like G buy wastrels and freebies who add nothing to the squad? fuck that shit. we sold ibra and silva, we were expected to reinforce our squad with the money we received, not to make us top 3 contenders which at present looks like an arduous task.

 

[Jivara]

My stream was not the best quality, but one of the defenders was nowhere to be found on Lazio's equalizer. De Jong misplayed the area, but there was zero cover.

It was not De Jongs fault, it's either Zapata because he was on the far post (he was LCB today) which was covered by Zaccardo then Abate. Or it Montolivo for not tracking Ciani's run knowing that there are brain farts guarding our last line of defence.

 

[Jivara]

Indeed it's a bad result but it was a serviceable performance, Lazio's goal was a matter of inches so I don't think there's anything that can be taken from it.

In truth, I think today's performance is an accurate reflection of how Allegri wants the team to play, attacks involved up to 6 players so there's good spread and many options, which is a necessary evil against stubborn defences. If the ball is lost, the nearest 3 form a press that either regains the ball or buys some time for others to return. It's certainly a tiring style but it embodies Allegri's attack & defend as a team mentality.

Milan have enough midfield control in most games to create 4-5 good chances and generally this should be enough to win a match, this was on display today with the goal and a couple Kaka off-targets, the other half-chances are missed because the players aren't timing or missing entirely good positioned teammates (Muntari and Balotelli on a few occasions).

My conclusion, therefore is that complaints on unstructured attacks are unfounded, with more games and adequate revision of recent games I believe that these half-chances can become whole as the players become more comfortable in attacking in numbers (it can be daunting choosing, at pace the right option from many). Ideally this would already have been resolved, but it should be made easier with someone as clever as Kaka in the mix.

This is what it all comes down to. Having smart guys who can bail us out of tough situations.

So my criticism for last night is.. Why didn't he keep Kaka for the entire match?

I.e. What are you supposed to get out of Robinho Balotelli and Matri?

 

[Jivara]

On the plus side, we didn't get to see Constant have another go at embarrassing himself

 

[Milanista_7]

Missed the game, anyone has extendend highlight?

 

[jammin]

3 points lost. Blegh.

 

[AC_Wesley]

#MilanLazio: 30.212 spectators were at San Siro tonight. 23.940 season ticket holders and 6.272 bought single tickets.

Yes, they should spend a lot of money to see junk once every 2 weeks.

 

[Ross O. Neri]

This is what it all comes down to. Having smart guys who can bail us out of tough situations.

So my criticism for last night is.. Why didn't he keep Kaka for the entire match?

I.e. What are you supposed to get out of Robinho Balotelli and Matri?

I don't have much issue with the substitutions, rather the timing, 5-10min is negligible that there seems little point but Allegri is occasionally rewarded for leaving players on a little longer than supporters may like.

My issues with the game stem more from the fact that Abate is too involved for his own good, free-kicks are unimaginative and corners are more of a detriment than anything else. If teams are able to clear from Milan's corners, they are then set on a counter against only 2 set defenders and Lazio could have won from these had Gabriel not intervened. I'd rather the short corners to what's currently being used, there's no risk associated with them.

PS Thanks Sven

 

[belloefamoso]

The only good thing is that last year we had 11 points in first 10 weeks and now we have 12.

downtrend! allegrip make milan shit

 

[Rickaka]

3 points lost. Blegh.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not how football works..

 

[jammin]

Oops my bad.

2 points lost.

 

[Patri]

The good news: we're still 1 point ahead as compared to last year

2012-13: 3W-2D-5L 12:12 11pts
2013-14: 3W-3D-4L 17:17 12pts

The bad news? We are two points further behind third place than at this stage last year.

We are now 13 points behind 3rd place after 10 games this season. Last year, we were only 11 points behind 3rd place after 10 games.

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/italy/serie-a/2012-2013/table/2012-11-01

Also, ultimately we took Inter's spot from the top 3 after they collapsed. Which of the present top 3 is going to collapse? Roma? Napoli? Juventus? I really don't see that being the case with any of those teams. Plus, Serie A is a lot tougher than last season.

 

[yagami7gnr]

I don't have much issue with the substitutions, rather the timing, 5-10min is negligible that there seems little point but Allegri is occasionally rewarded for leaving players on a little longer than supporters may like.

My issues with the game stem more from the fact that Abate is too involved for his own good, free-kicks are unimaginative and corners are more of a detriment than anything else. If teams are able to clear from Milan's corners, they are then set on a counter against only 2 set defenders and Lazio could have won from these had Gabriel not intervened. I'd rather the short corners to what's currently being used, there's no risk associated with them.

PS Thanks Sven

Neither Binho and Matri subs did make sense; especially, Matri. it is not because he is Allegri's ideal one; however, it is because we did not sent/cross any ball inside the area before or after Matri came in so he can be effective; therefore making his presence a complete eyesore.

- Abate was complete off passing wise the whole night.
- Do we do any tactical work in set pieces?

 

[Curupira]

Honestly, what pissed me off the MOST about the game is how as soon as we scored, we played "defensive" and allowed Lazio (and Verona, Torino, Bologna...) back in the game when the game was pretty much over if we played the way we did prior to the goal. Rewatch the game, although we still looked lost in the final 3rd today the effort and pressing was very good during the early parts of the match. Even when Abate was giving the ball away, our other players were fighting and winning it back quickly. You see our players chasing after and winning loose balls.

Then you see we go back to ourselves. People misplacing simple passes, then jogging back on defense. We start giving away simple passes.

It's just so frustrating to see the team just switch off like that. We are not Barca, Bayern, or our former selves where we can just do that and still come back to win the game.

 

[necromancer]

I liked this game. We seem to be getting an identity again. Unfortunately, it was one of those games in which a couple of near chances get missed and the opposition always stays in the right position.

The conceded goal was inevitable. But we would have scored 2 or 3 another night.

I liked the lineup as well. This should be our starting XI till El Shaarawy returns and Mexes is unbanned.

 

[Sod-Lod]

 

[Sod-Lod]