Super Berlusconi + Galliani Thread

[anilak]

I have question and please answer it in proper way.

why in god name asking from B to spend on the team will be derived as non-validation or wise step and it will affect our financial statement and ruined it above that it will violate the new CL rule?

Please explain?

Cos to be honest, the new rule will be thrown away in a week's time like Chelsea's tranfer ban. Every big club except Milan and Munich got debt and all the Spanish and English clubs got too much debt and thier yearly earnings will never be more than thier spending atleast anytime in near future. UEFA won't play the CL after banning Madrid, Chelsea, City(they'lll qualify this time), United etc. So don't have much hope of us doin well after the law comes into action. Most likely like UEFA's 6+5 rule will be just a thought which will never come into action.

And this time since we qualified for CL etc, our revenues will be much higher. Last year we had to sell Kaka cos not qualifying for CL would have taken a huge income from us. Qualifying is around 20 million, qualifying to knockout is another 20, so when compared to this year, last year our revenue was 40 million less. And new sponsors etc, means we can actually spend some cash without breaking the rule even if it comes.

 

[Kuzimoto]

any rumors of people weve been linked with? compile a list?
dzeko will not come tho.

hernanes?
cassano?
any wingbaks?

those two are too young for us!!!

we can only have crespo or ibrahim ba.

 

[drucurl]

All this talk of the uefa rule on debt and the 6+5 rule and the lack of CL REVENUE to me is all designed to apply liberal amounts of gloss over the truth. Berlu can't/won't spend. When juve got BANNED from european competition, their first year back they bought. They have been buying ever since. I refuse to believe that ONE year without CL + the sale of our biggest star +the sale of our biggest prospect +gila+olivera= 'we can't buy shit'

 

[Redman10]

All this talk of the uefa rule on debt and the 6+5 rule and the lack of CL REVENUE to me is all designed to apply liberal amounts of gloss over the truth. Berlu can't/won't spend. When juve got BANNED from european competition, their first year back they bought. They have been buying ever since. I refuse to believe that ONE year without CL + the sale of our biggest star +the sale of our biggest prospect +gila+olivera= 'we can't buy shit'

+1 Clubs that are not even bigger or richer than Milan spend more than they do.

 

[SpartanMilan]

All this talk of the uefa rule on debt and the 6+5 rule and the lack of CL REVENUE to me is all designed to apply liberal amounts of gloss over the truth. Berlu can't/won't spend. When juve got BANNED from european competition, their first year back they bought. They have been buying ever since. I refuse to believe that ONE year without CL + the sale of our biggest star +the sale of our biggest prospect +gila+olivera= 'we can't buy shit'

exactly. we dont want to spend, its not that we cant. The no debt CL thing is total BS and there is no way that will ever happen. It doesnt make any sense to allow that to happen. Dont tell me that this summer me couldnt have sold Kaka for 55 mil + Huntelaar and Snjieder and also found a way to sign Aly Cissihko. That gives us 3 "big" additions, and makes us a much much better team. and you know what? we probably could have done that and keep Gourcuff. We get those four and we can sell Dinho too and have a much younger, more dynamic team that has those four + Pato, Flamini, and Silva to build around going forward.

 

[Redman10]

exactly. we dont want to spend, its not that we cant. The no debt CL thing is total BS and there is no way that will ever happen. It doesnt make any sense to allow that to happen. Dont tell me that this summer me couldnt have sold Kaka for 55 mil + Huntelaar and Snjieder and also found a way to sign Aly Cissihko. That gives us 3 "big" additions, and makes us a much much better team. and you know what? we probably could have done that and keep Gourcuff. We get those four and we can sell Dinho too and have a much younger, more dynamic team that has those four + Pato, Flamini, and Silva to build around going forward.

Nope the better option is to give 5 year contract extensions to every 30 year old+ player in the squad so we can have a squad full of champions.

 

[SpartanMilan]

Nope the better option is to give 5 year contract extensions to every 30 year old+ player in the squad so we can have a squad full of champions.

yeah... seriously the thought that we could have pretty easily had a team of-

-----------Abbiati-------------
-Zambro-Nesta-Silva-Cissihko-
----Flamini--Pirlo--Snjieder-----
------------Gourcuff------------
-----Huntelaar----Pato-----

makes me kinda pissed. Then this summer buy Hernanes (eventually takes over for Pirlo) and a RB (Gregory van der Wiel maybe to replace Zambro) and we have a team that can compete at the highest levels for years... Even the team I have without the summer buys has Seedorf, Ambro, Borri, Antonini, Abate, etc as backups. That would allow for flexibility and there would be some of the old crowd like Pirlo, Seedorf, Nesta, and Ambro to teach the young guys about what Milan is and what it means. the only thing that team is missing is a backup CB, and selling some players like Gattuso (love him but the end is near) Kala, not extending Fala, and that would hopefully be enough money for a backup CB

 

[Pedro]

yeah... seriously the thought that we could have pretty easily had a team of-

-----------Abbiati-------------
-Zambro-Nesta-Silva-Cissihko-
----Flamini--Pirlo--Snjieder-----
------------Gourcuff------------
-----Huntelaar----Pato-----

lol, chosing Flamini over Ambrosini
and Huntelaar over Borriello

 

[SpartanMilan]

I like Ambro, but Flamini is about the same as a player and I would take him over Ambro as the main starter, but Ambro would still play a lot of games. In a team that can actually run, Borri aka "the amazing ball holding striker" doesnt start because his best feature, waiting for all of his slow team mates to transition up the field, isnt as important, so the better pure striker, Hunter, gets to play

 

[Sasha]

100% starters: Ambro, Nesta, Pirlo, Silva, Pato

 

[melanman]

100% starters: Ambro, Nesta, Pirlo, Silva, Pato

only two of thses players have a high shelf life.

 

[Sasha]

Well I was referring to this year. Obviusly we need replacements some.

 

[Deleted member 24225]

Maybe B+G now realized that we need some new players, at least it seemed so because of G's comments after the match, but I don't know if it's just an old phrase he always uses or if it is serious now.
But I hope they get someone today, we really need CB backups that have quality (that's the most important now), the other departments are not top priority but one or two other players would be nice too, but we have Adi now back from the african cup so we don't need anymore strikers now. We'll see what happens today, I have a bit of hope that we get someone, but that's just a little hope.

 

[GreatKalu]

Anyone have a clip of Galliani's expressions? Boy he looked depressed.

 

[Sod-Lod]

Cos to be honest, the new rule will be thrown away in a week's time like Chelsea's tranfer ban. Every big club except Milan and Munich got debt and all the Spanish and English clubs got too much debt and thier yearly earnings will never be more than thier spending atleast anytime in near future. UEFA won't play the CL after banning Madrid, Chelsea, City(they'lll qualify this time), United etc. So don't have much hope of us doin well after the law comes into action. Most likely like UEFA's 6+5 rule will be just a thought which will never come into action.

And this time since we qualified for CL etc, our revenues will be much higher. Last year we had to sell Kaka cos not qualifying for CL would have taken a huge income from us. Qualifying is around 20 million, qualifying to knockout is another 20, so when compared to this year, last year our revenue was 40 million less. And new sponsors etc, means we can actually spend some cash without breaking the rule even if it comes.

BS those teams will cover there debts by sponsorships + Market + Attendance and TV games right.

Do you ever believe that Barca + RM + Printer + MU + Chelsea will dismissed from the competition?

and oner that to shut down the BS Mouthes; Silvio is the fucking Owner of AC Milan so spending on the team will not create debts he will increase the Capital of the team; so stop BS.

by the way anilak, the words not directed to you man.

 

[Senatore_M84]

All this talk of the uefa rule on debt and the 6+5 rule and the lack of CL REVENUE to me is all designed to apply liberal amounts of gloss over the truth. Berlu can't/won't spend. When juve got BANNED from european competition, their first year back they bought. They have been buying ever since. I refuse to believe that ONE year without CL + the sale of our biggest star +the sale of our biggest prospect +gila+olivera= 'we can't buy shit'

yes and no.

I think it's unfair to not point out the huge declining popularity of serie A globally (less revenue) and the lack of attendence at san siro.

This year milan are averaging 42k per game.. Quick run down:
08/09: 58k
07/08: 57k
06/07: 51.8k
05/06: 58k
(source :Soccernet)

The saddest part, Milan's 42k is second highest in serie A still...

I think Milan has funds, but the recession has caused management to take a generally more conservative view, on what was already a conservative management. Simply put, they are scared to spend on any sort of 'risk'

That being said, scared of risk is NO WAY to run a team. gotta have a balance, between spend happy city, and spend thrift current milan

 

[SpartanMilan]

Serie A has has lost a lot of "star power" recently and it will take some time to get it back, but their are players capable of doing it (Pato, Santon, Giovinco, Zarate, Hamsik, etc) it just takes time for them to develop a bit. League popularity changes every few years anyway. I think the stadiums must be modernized though, that would cost in the short run, but it would help a lot over time.

 

[Calum1903]

Serie A has has lost a lot of "star power" recently and it will take some time to get it back, but their are players capable of doing it (Pato, Santon, Giovinco, Zarate, Hamsik, etc) it just takes time for them to develop a bit. League popularity changes every few years anyway. I think the stadiums must be modernized though, that would cost in the short run, but it would help a lot over time.

I don't think those two deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as the other three.

 

[anilak]

I don't think those two deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as the other three.

+1. Wen compared to even youngsters in other leagues Giovinco, Zarate etc r nowhere thr. Giovinco is older than Messi and Ronaldo. Wen do u expect him to break out and be a star ? Zarate is the most overratted and selfish striker mentioned too much in our forum. 30 million value ffs. Can name another 6 Argentine forwards playing abroad better than him. Some names that can be household names all around Europe - Pato, Jovetic, Hamsik, Balotelli ( if he keeps his head right), Pastore. If scouting reports r true, even Adiyiah can make this list.

 

[samir10]

when did santon become great talent and future prospect? what has he done? one good match against c. ronaldo and suddenly he's new maldini? please enlight me. atm pato, kjaer and hamsik are 10 light years better players than santon. oh i've just realized, santon is italian

 

[Revolution]

when did santon become great talent and future prospect? what has he done? one good match against c. ronaldo and suddenly he's new maldini? please enlight me. atm pato, kjaer and hamsik are 10 light years better players than santon. oh i've just realized, santon is italian

He has talent, and he's young. That pretty much makes you a superstar now a days. Also kjaer is over rated. Hamsik will be a champion.

 

[Sheva0172]

Kjaer is definetly not overrated.. besides that. people don't compare him to Nesta or whoever constantly. He's priced at 15 million, and he's definetly worth money based on the matches i've seen him play this season.

 

[samir10]

from what i've seen kjaer is better than santacroce or any other young defender. he's playing with confidence and without many complications. he does remind me nesta with his composure something you can't train, you are born with it. sorry for OT.

 

[Senatore_M84]

from what i've seen kjaer is better than santacroce or any other young defender. he's playing with confidence and without many complications. he does remind me nesta with his composure something you can't train, you are born with it. sorry for OT.

but none of them r as good as silva or nesta, and will not get game time.


face it, kaladze, favalli, bonera r as good of backups as you'll get. Unless you want cordoba, materazzi or leggrotaglie. Bringing a young guy who isn't developed is just as bad for him as us. Unlike striker or midfield, rotation is not good for defense

 

[Sheva0172]

but none of them r as good as silva or nesta, and will not get game time.


face it, kaladze, favalli, bonera r as good of backups as you'll get. Unless you want cordoba, materazzi or leggrotaglie. Bringing a young guy who isn't developed is just as bad for him as us. Unlike striker or midfield, rotation is not good for defense

Bullshit. Offcourse no backup can make up for an injured Nesta but Kaladze costed us a few goals in the few playing time he got this year.

He was horrible against Napoli, Zurich & Cagliari for example. Besides that he is earning way to much cash to sit somewhere in the stands or on the bench.

 

[samir10]

@Milano84. as much as i love kaladze i strongly disagree he's decent backup. bonera yes, young decent can only get better, can also play as rb but nothing spectacular. favalli you always know what you can expect from him, he's no speed demon as you say but he'll get the job done. on the other hand kaladze is far from his best, last season he scored 2 own goals georgia vs italy, also committed many many errors for milan last 3-4 season. do we really need him?
as for development of young talented defenders i partially agree. it is true wc defenders need more time to develope but wouldn't milanello be the best place on the face of planet for kjaer? he could learn alot from nesta, just like silva is learning atm. and of course kjaer doesn't even come close to silva, let alone nesta, but then again who does?

 

[Senatore_M84]

Bullshit. Offcourse no backup can make up for an injured Nesta but Kaladze costed us a few goals in the few playing time he got this year.

He was horrible against Napoli, Zurich & Cagliari for example. Besides that he is earning way to much cash to sit somewhere in the stands or on the bench.

I'm saying quality defenders don't wanna sit on the bench unless u grossly overpay them.

I'm not saying I DONT wanna upgrade from kaladze, but i think it's kinda pointless to look at guys like kjaer or super young guys w/ talent. They NEED to play

 

[Dwa Milan]

I like Kjaer, I don't think he is overrated, from what I seen him play, he's a talented defender. However he did stated that if he moves he doesn't want to be a bench warmer

 

[Sheva0172]

I'm saying quality defenders don't wanna sit on the bench unless u grossly overpay them.

I'm not saying I DONT wanna upgrade from kaladze, but i think it's kinda pointless to look at guys like kjaer or super young guys w/ talent. They NEED to play

Yes, but Kaladze isn't a quality defender and he has no future at all and he's still grossly overpayed..

They will play in 1 or 2 years. Besides that with a Kjaer kind a guy you can rotate a little bit more. You can play Kjaer in the Serie A games around CL matches or give Nesta some rest after 3 games in 1 week. You see how many minutes Kaladze + Favalli played this year?

Kjaer can get enough playing time in Milan this season and next season and we just can't count on Nesta to be there for many many years to come. He doesn't have much in the tank left.

Look at Chelsea, Alex - Terry - Carvalho and a great young talent Bruma and in need Ivanovic can play CB. They have 3 great CB's and all of them make their minutes. Great teams need depth.

Barcelona, Chygrynski, Milito, Marquez, Puyol, Pique

 

[Sod-Lod]

Galliani, Berlusconi arrives rod

Galliani, Berlusconi arrives rod

Galliani, Berlusconi arrives rod
02.02.2010 22.02 by Antonio Vitiello Article read 153 times
Source: milannews.it

Needed a defender, maybe two, came a playmaker. Amantino Mancini from Inter on loan with the right of redemption yesterday led the first training session with the Rossoneri's shirt. "I really want to play, I thank Milan for their confidence." The first words of the Brazilian. A confidence that seems unidirectional. Milan president Silvio Berlusconi to the arrival of former Inter did not like at all. And though most experts praised the operation in extremis to Galliani, the Rossoneri boss contorts his face and expresses doubts: "The acquisition of Mancini? I do not understand." Openly and decided to bowl Berlusconi priori former Giallorossi, adding: "It 'another playmaker and we need somebody who maybe have finalized the game. And' detention for two years, I disagree with your purchase and I told Galliani" . I wonder how the will to take the AC Milan. He hoped to receive compliments on the phone, but from Israel, where the premier met the Italian community in Jerusalem, but had to put up a dressing down. Mancini is a gamble, the Milan players are ready to enter the fray and start to fight. Expect to recover both physically and psychologically, the player could be a process too slow. However many times the Via Turati club has proven to be able to "regenerate" an athlete, and precisely the most striking examples come with Seedorf and Pirlo. The mission is still not easy to reach. So much so that Prime Minister Berlusconi was expecting something else from the market of repair, a bit, but that a central defender or external. Mancini has undoubtedly had a good reception from the colony in Brazil and the Rossoneri's leadership headed Galliani, but for sure the true "Bienvenido", that of Premier, has not arrived.