Andrea Pirlo Thread

[KujaIX]

Is it actually Farouk?

 

[Senatore_M84]

seriously blaming a person for a whole team fiasco... is a bit out of line..
it's a team game, anyone who plays the game would really hate that kind of judgment

let's blame him for nesta's worst blunder of his career (goal #3)

There's some really good pro and against Pirlo arguments in the this past 10 pages, what I find interesting is that the best "against" Pirlo or his position posts come from either people that aren't fan boys or "haterz" and from the "fan boys" themselves.

false. Obviously all they (myself) wrote was his hair=jizzjizzjizz. omgz thru ball, loft jizz jizz, hair jizz jizz jizzz


Do people read?

 

[Maldini&Inzaghi]

NO Pirlo = No Italy !

so true it hurts........

 

[GreatKalu]

They say that Pirlo might miss the first game, here in Romania.

Is it actually Farouk?

Either him or Tsar ... either way, a pretty pathetic person.

Ah ... Feeling lazy to type a "big wall of text". Well, at least some of us type walls of text on subjects regarding Milan, and not Bartha/Jose the special ass

Anyway, I guess it was all Pirlo's fault Deportivo = peeeerrrlaaa's fuck up. I mean, if he hadn't scored that fourth goal, the team probably would've been less complacent than they were, going into the second leg Its pretty damn obvious Here ... watch him ruin Milan with this fuck up!



Who are you kidding? Please, take your pseudo football knowledge elsewhere ... to the Jose *the special ass who's won less than Pirlo * thread

GRANDE MAESTRO!

GRAZIE ANDREA

 

[Ashish]

is it true is it true??

see i am not happy
come on italy shit play like a true footballing giant and lippi call cassano and balo NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

 

[Ashish]

First goal: Pirlo standing there just like in Ashish's signature, not applying any pressure while he is close to the opponent and he is about to score, but who cares?! He's Il Maestro... His position is a DM but he isn't supposed to defend!

Then Depor waste two clear chances, while our whole team is defending for their lives EXCEPT il grande maestro who is jogging around, standing out of the penalty area doing absolute fuck all.

In the second half there is a golden chance gifted to Depor since Il Maestro was "orchestrating" in front of the penalty area and lost the ball under pressure.

He was then subbed after causing enough damage.

Now, the Istanbul disaster is a complicated situation. It was a freakish incident that happens once in a million, and a lot of factors contributed, like the whole team relaxing, Liverpool's fighting spirit, luck, Gerrard's dive, Dida's howlers, etc...



AND the genuis of the Maestro (I'm NOT, by all means, blaming him ONLY, but yeah he was a reason). Our midfield was generally lightweight, and because Liverpool were pressuring us, and our DM doesn't defend (he's too busy orchestrating ) they were able to grab three goals in six minutes.

First goal: Pirlo was standing, could have jumped to stop the ball, but didn't. (for the member who was saying he doesn't need to have good jumping ability).

Second goal: It was a shot from a distance. Who should pressure? The DM! But Pirlo is not any DM, you see, he is the "deep lying playmaker", all he has to do is to "orchestrate". You can actually see Seedorf running his ass off pressing on Smicer, while Pirlo is just jogging as usual.

Third goal: Gerrard's fucking dive. Who was following him? The king Rino Gattuso who was giving his all. Unlike a certain Pirlo who was too busy to give a fuck. Just jogging by himself outside of the penalty area.

2 of the biggest failures in ancelottis footballing career and the man consecrating was pirlo
You are god fiero , i hire you as my attorney against Peerlo fanboys

Perfect posts

He was a good player because of others by himself he is just shit
anyway nice post man

bookmarking it

 

[SixOneFive]

too soon ashy

 

[Edi]

First of all the Deportivo defeat was not Pirlo's fault. Do you know who's fault it was?
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It was destiny's fault! No team has successfully defended their CL title so we were bound to lose


Now move on

 

[Ashish]

nah it wasnt pirlos fault it wasnot ancelottis fault then why the fuck were we paying them?? winners were winning instead of complaining
kudos to depor and livshit for fighting and coming back from the deepest shit , with some valuable assistance from our players and coach.

any team which will be down by 3-0 will always say there was an istanbul and you can defeat anyteam

we are in history books for giving away the easiest cl trophy ever and 4-0 to depor LOL thats destiny god help us

 

[Redman10]

This board gets legendary every day. LMFAO at the Pirlo is the reason behind the Deportivo and Liverpool debacle.

 

[Edi]

This board gets legendary every day. LMFAO at the Pirlo is the reason behind the Deportivo and Liverpool debacle.

Yeah,

I wonder what else can we blame Pirlo for? Global warming, credit crunch?

 

[drucurl]

somewhere in the middle of all there opinions (including mines) is the truth. Hence the average of "genius" and "shit" is 'average' which is what he is. The problem is that the things he was bad at he's still bad at probably worse due to age. Also the things he was great possibly world class at he's no longer that good (long passes, through balls and free kicks). So he's average but closer to the shit side for me and probably closer to world class for his fans

 

[GreatKalu]

Here ... this was one of his better performances this season. Away from home, against 2nd placed Roma, I guess it was an example of how his game has evolved, and he's now become a more "complete" CM than before ... my opinion, of course.

BTW, Kuja ... if there aren't at least 2-3 diagonal crosses in this clip, then we have different ideas regarding what is, and what isn't one. A particular one, laid on a platter for Hunter ... yes, the guy who had a better season than Pirlo ... only for him to monumentally fuck up



An all round solid performance, IMO.

GRAZIE ANDREA

Get well soon MAESTRO ... World Cup Needs you

 

[Ashish]

and who was busting his arse a bench warmer compared to the monumental shit called pirlo



oh i need others to bust there arse to do something decent player

rather take lion hearts than some overrated puss

 

[Lisa]

Yeah,

I wonder what else can we blame Pirlo for? Global warming, credit crunch?

The oil spill in the gulf...damn you Pirlo!

Plus, my broken nail!

 

[anilak]

lol at a few who brings one video clip from somewhere and try to prove Peerlo had a better season than Dinho ...

It's as good as having a 60 second clip of Favalli and his few tackles whole season and then 2 more clips of Nesta messing up the Rooney header in CL and Silva's few mistakes whole season and saying Favalli >> Nesta, Silva.

The difference between Pirlo and Dinho this season is wider than Favalli to the other CBs...

 

[Senatore_M84]

The oil spill in the gulf...damn you Pirlo!

Plus, my broken nail!

I'm going to have to work this season. FU Pirlo!

 

[Fiero]

that's just pathetic Fiero You are so much better than that.

I know, thanks man. It's just that I get so pissed by people overrating Pirlo.

seriously blaming a person for a whole team fiasco... is a bit out of line..
it's a team game, anyone who plays the game would really hate that kind of judgment

See I DIDN'T blame him for the whole losses. If people bother to read... I only pointed out his defensive errors, which people tend to generally ignore, but in game's that we get humiliated such as these it proves to be an important factor!

The hair thing is just a light comment, it's as if I took seriously Farouk's and Wet Ones posts saying that one of the reasons that makes Mourinho a great coach and person is the fact that he cried 3 times. Or taking seriously Farouk's 2 posts on why Pirlo is the cause of the debacles at La Coruña and Istanbul.

When did I ever say that?! I never said Mourinho is a good coach because he cried. And I didn't say Pirlo was the ONLY reason for the Deportivo embarrassment and Istanbul disaster.

Btw, In the Deportivo game, after realizing that the tie is slipping from our hands, Ancelotti took off Pirlo and preferred to play Seedorf as the DM to defend the aggregate score. Says a lot really about Pirlo's defensive ability.

Either him or Tsar ... either way, a pretty pathetic person.

Seriously, if you got a problem tell it in my face. I didn't like it when you called me pathetic, so you are NOT going to call me that again.

First of all the Deportivo defeat was not Pirlo's fault. Do you know who's fault it was?
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It was destiny's fault! No team has successfully defended their CL title so we were bound to lose


Now move on

See that's my problem. People here tend to understand the meaning of being a "fan" wrong, at least in my perspective. I mean, am I supposed to be so biased in favor of my team, its players, coaches and ex-coaches, while I be biased against all the players and coaches of other teams?

Seriously that's not the way it should be. I mean God gave us brains to think and use it, we're supposed to judge by our thoughts not our feelings. Anyway, point is, what pisses me off here is how biased people get. When Pirlo or Ancelotti (I love him) fuck up, it's God or destiny... seriously? I mean, the way I see it is that we love the team, we care about it, we want it to be better, so we point to the negatives in order to improve.

I definitely don't hate Pirlo, but I care about Milan and I see him as a weak link, so no matter what he gave us he can't be bigger than Milan, therefore he can't be bash-proof. Has nothing to do with hating or being "groupies" or "fanboys", no need for extreme words... afterall we're all Milan fans here. It's a discussion board so we're not bound to all have the same opinion, and what pushes the people who criticize Pirlo over the edge is the way the pro-Pirlo people just blindly praise him for a goal scored or a good free kick and ignore anything else basically since he is "Il Maestro" or he won tournament for us or anything, so he should not be condemned. In my opinion, people who live in past glory shouldn't be complaining about us not signing new players, and therefore not winning anything.

Milan > Pirlo or any player or coach or president.

PS- I'm willing to bet most people wouldn't even care to read this post since it's long, but would jump on the bandwagon when me -or anybody else- is being criticized for attacking Pirlo.

 

[GreatKalu]

Love Flamini, but you got to admit. He could do with a bit of calm and composure; something Pirlo has truckloads of

Flamini + Pirlo for next season sounds good to me. Only problem is, neither are strong in the air. Yes, if Pirlo's a midget, so is Flamini Therefore, the box-to-box CM almost everyone's been talking of should be good in the air ... with Ambro and Gattuso providing depth. But first thing is first ... Flamini has to win his starting place ahead of Ambro ...

 

[Pedro]

I know, thanks man. It's just that I get so pissed by people overrating Pirlo.

And how does that make you feel?

 

[crazy4milan]

I'm going to have to work this season. FU Pirlo!

Pirlo is the reason why I'm jobless, too much time thinking in his wonderful hair, no one wants to hire me for that.

 

[Senatore_M84]

Love Flamini, but you got to admit. He could do with a bit of calm and composure; something Pirlo has truckloads of

Flamini + Pirlo for next season sounds good to me. Only problem is, neither are strong in the air. Yes, if Pirlo's a midget, so is Flamini Therefore, the box-to-box CM almost everyone's been talking of should be good in the air ... with Ambro and Gattuso providing depth. But first thing is first ... Flamini has to win his starting place ahead of Ambro ...

truthfully, i'm kinda ready to give up on flamini. I like the guy alot but 2 years and he can't assert himself. Perhaps he's just a premier league player. It's not a knock by any means but maybe we are better suited selling him for 15 mil euros (which he'd probably command) and using that money to get 2 midfielders.

Guys like Gojko Kacar, Jucilei, and other highly promising defensive midfielder are available under 8 mil.

 

[Pedro]

Love Flamini, but you got to admit. He could do with a bit of calm and composure; something Pirlo has truckloads of

Flamini + Pirlo for next season sounds good to me. Only problem is, neither are strong in the air. Yes, if Pirlo's a midget, so is Flamini Therefore, the box-to-box CM almost everyone's been talking of should be good in the air ... with Ambro and Gattuso providing depth. But first thing is first ... Flamini has to win his starting place ahead of Ambro ...

Flamini is a headless chicken compared to Ambrosini.

 

[AC_Wesley]

Why are we all checking out Pirlo's faults? Let's check what he did good.

 

[Ashish]

Flamini is a headless chicken compared to Ambrosini.

yeah i agree flamini has to improve a lot cause ambro is no where a top dm and he dives a lot. flamini is playing really bad these days

 

[anilak]

yeah i agree flamini has to improve a lot cause ambro is no where a top dm and he dives a lot. flamini is playing really bad these days

Flamini never got any chance to play consistantly too and that's one thing i disaprove of Leo.

Normally it takes 1 year for someone to get used to a league. Carlo's season he was pretty decent and even good many times in spite of playing as RB.

But last year he rarely got a proper run of 3 games. Gattuso over him an entire half season was criminal.

And finally we were playing with Ambro Pirlo Dorf mid with him subbed in last 30 mts etc most of the time and wen somethn like this happens the confidence takes a huge hit. For defenders and defensive mids u need consistant game time to get settled.

Antonini wen he was getting scarce minutes looked bad, but wen he started getting regular minutes his game performance increased drastically. I expect the same with Flamini.

Read yesterday that Allegri wants to keep Flamini. If that's the case I expect more time for him and I expect him to do well.

 

[hdcantona]

truthfully, i'm kinda ready to give up on flamini. I like the guy alot but 2 years and he can't assert himself. Perhaps he's just a premier league player. It's not a knock by any means but maybe we are better suited selling him for 15 mil euros (which he'd probably command) and using that money to get 2 midfielders.

Guys like Gojko Kacar, Jucilei, and other highly promising defensive midfielder are available under 8 mil.

Allegri has only given 1 instruction regarding players at the club already...

"don't sell Flamini"

I see your reasoning, in fact I might agree if I thought that selling WOULD mean money buying a replacement (which I'm not sure it would...) but it looks like he's set to stay

 

[Ashish]

Flamini never got any chance to play consistantly too and that's one thing i disaprove of Leo.

Normally it takes 1 year for someone to get used to a league. Carlo's season he was pretty decent and even good many times in spite of playing as RB.

But last year he rarely got a proper run of 3 games. Gattuso over him an entire half season was criminal.

And finally we were playing with Ambro Pirlo Dorf mid with him subbed in last 30 mts etc most of the time and wen somethn like this happens the confidence takes a huge hit. For defenders and defensive mids u need consistant game time to get settled.

Antonini wen he was getting scarce minutes looked bad, but wen he started getting regular minutes his game performance increased drastically. I expect the same with Flamini.

Read yesterday that Allegri wants to keep Flamini. If that's the case I expect more time for him and I expect him to do well.

some good points there but somethings has to be blamed on flamini also. Allegri showing confidence in flamini is that menas he will be given more playing time ahead of ambro and gattuso. thats the way you should go veterans should be rested for important games and young ones/ prime ones should be blooded day in and day out.

 

[anilak]

Gattuso deserves to leave over any other mid in the team now as he has a contract here till 2012 ( we extended by 2 years ? ) and I see no way he's gonna do anything here any longer. From legend he's getting into our Oddo/Kalazde group.

Last whole season Rino was bad and second half Ambro was bad. I don't think either of em will last for more than 2 years esp with the amount of games Ambro is playing at age 33 each year. So I think Flamini shd be kept.

Knowing our management we will sell Flamini, and exchange brocci and oddo and bring in brocci and will say we got an extra in form mid and midfield market is closed. So right now I'm against selling any young player who is capable of contributing in our team.

 

[Edi]

See that's my problem. People here tend to understand the meaning of being a "fan" wrong, at least in my perspective. I mean, am I supposed to be so biased in favor of my team, its players, coaches and ex-coaches, while I be biased against all the players and coaches of other teams?

This is true but don't you find it weird people on a Milan board bash their own soooooo much, discrediting Milan, the players, the coaches and everything they do and then they go on sucking Barca's or Real's or Mourinho's balls till death when they do something similar?

I definitely don't hate Pirlo, but I care about Milan and I see him as a weak link, so no matter what he gave us he can't be bigger than Milan, therefore he can't be bash-proof. Has nothing to do with hating or being "groupies" or "fanboys", no need for extreme words... afterall we're all Milan fans here. It's a discussion board so we're not bound to all have the same opinion, and what pushes the people who criticize Pirlo over the edge is the way the pro-Pirlo people just blindly praise him for a goal scored or a good free kick and ignore anything else basically since he is "Il Maestro" or he won tournament for us or anything, so he should not be condemned. In my opinion, people who live in past glory shouldn't be complaining about us not signing new players, and therefore not winning anything.

When it comes to Pirlo, I'm neutral, he is not my fav. player but he has been bashed undeservedly around here. My point is that yeah he deserves the critic in the past 2 seasons but the problem is the same people who bash Pirlo now are the ones that bashed Pirlo when we were doing good. So basically what ever he does he is bashed. Till 2 years ago Pirlo had better stats than Xavi per season and majority of people were drooling over Xavi while bashing their own Is that being a Milan fan?

Everybody has their own view about supporting. Some are "fans" but want Inter to win for the sake of Italian football which for me is absurd. Some want Inter to win because of Mourinho etc, etc.

As you said Milan> Pirlo, coaches, presidents but that means Milan> other team players, coaches or whatever

My view is support your own and honestly fuck the others...