Andrea Pirlo Thread

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Ok, you are free to have you're own opinion, you don't have to get all touchy and sensitive about it.

You just can't live with the fact that the 34-year-old Dutch captain was preferred to a younger Pirlo (which was fully deserved by the way).

And no, Pirlo is not in a different league, they both have their strong points and their weaknesses. Pirlo is more tiki-taka, but I prefer the effective simplicity of players like Van Bommel who are always motivated, want to win every single game and also don't need white or yellow shoes to impress. Give Pirlo central midfielders like Nocerino, Emanuelson or Aquilani and you would see in every fucking match what it means to get murdered.

Van Bommel is still able to destroy the opponent's midfield completely on his own, but next year you will witness Pirlo getting toasted by every stronger European club which hopefully shuts your mouth once and for all.
 

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You just can't live with the fact that the 34-year-old Dutch captain was preferred to a younger Pirlo (which was fully deserved by the way).

And no, Pirlo is not in a different league, they both have their strong points and their weaknesses. Pirlo is more tiki-taka, but I prefer the effective simplicity of players like Van Bommel who are always motivated, want to win every single game and also don't need white or yellow shoes to impress. Give Pirlo central midfielders like Nocerino, Emanuelson or Aquilani and you would see in every fucking match what it means to get murdered.

Van Bommel is still able to destroy the opponent's midfield completely on his own, but next year you will witness Pirlo getting toasted by every stronger European club which hopefully shuts your mouth once and for all.

Ladri will be like Roma 2008/09.
Merda next year will be Ladri this year.
 

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As I said , wait for CL & next year to judge Pirlo.
To bad Milan is fucking up big time with the fact serieA is shit allowing Juve the possibility to win a title.
 

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Way to go :thumbsup: Last year it was wait for next season , pirlo is going to suck at juventus. Now that he got the title in the bag, its next season and UCL:lol::lol: Last time i checked Juventus dont cheap out and buy freebies like milan. They will re-inforce properly and cl shouldn't be a problem for Pirlo
 

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You just can't live with the fact that the 34-year-old Dutch captain was preferred to a younger Pirlo (which was fully deserved by the way).

And no, Pirlo is not in a different league, they both have their strong points and their weaknesses. Pirlo is more tiki-taka, but I prefer the effective simplicity of players like Van Bommel who are always motivated, want to win every single game and also don't need white or yellow shoes to impress. Give Pirlo central midfielders like Nocerino, Emanuelson or Aquilani and you would see in every fucking match what it means to get murdered.

Van Bommel is still able to destroy the opponent's midfield completely on his own, but next year you will witness Pirlo getting toasted by every stronger European club which hopefully shuts your mouth once and for all.

I wish we had a 25year old MvB :(
 

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Ance doing good in a mediocre french league having the best team doesnt show much of his worth , does it ?
SerieA is close to a shit league with Milan the only competitor , a competitor with a midfield of Noce-Aqui-Ema-Muntari :lol:

CL is the only way for both to meet a semi good team.
So yeah , wait for both to get destroyed in CL.
Big chance they might both get destroyed the current season by a mediocre Milan & some french haha team ;)
 

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this is his last spark, he won't play like this, next season :o
 

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couldnt care less what he does in champions league or serie a.. just win the euros for us :star:il metronomo:star:
 

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It was foreseeable that he would do great in this season if you consider how motivated he is to show Milan what he still can do on the field. Juventus also have few injuries and less games, so it's clear that they all shine and he's the point of reference. I never said that he's gonna fuck up this season, I just say that he will be killed when the big teams come in CL next year.

If he had stayed here it would be completely different. He would have sit on the bench behind Van Bommel or would have been injured as nearly all Milan players.
 

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As I said , wait for CL & next year to judge Pirlo.
To bad Milan is fucking up big time with the fact serieA is shit allowing Juve the possibility to win a title.

:thumbsdown::fp:

Fuck that shit, we're not screwing up.

Instead of being -1 we should be +2 or +4.

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If it wasn't for shit referees, or 15 injured players, we'd be miles in front.

I have no criticisms for the Milan squad of this year.

FORZA MILAN!
 

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I pray for italy to fail miserably in euros... sorry italians nothing against your motherland .. unless pirlo misses the tourney

please dont play cassano :cry: i cannot root against him :mad:

Ze zlatan pleaseeeeeeeee
 

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Yeah true.
Some bad calls affected the title & those injuries :head:
 

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I do feel vindicated.

As I always said... play him as more of a CM (more of what he plays with italy), have movement around him, and watch him dominate a game.

Sit clarence infront of him (which kills his passing, since clarence dwells on ball and really should only play CM) and Ronaldinho infront of him (Same shit) with little movement in general from cm's fb's etc. and his skills are wasted.

Thank you Conte for proving my point.

Team built around pirlo > team built around zlatan.

Much more entertaining, less predictable.


All you saying 'wait till they get destroyed in ucl!'. Nah wait till they pick up a top class forward, potentially a winger, and 1 more defender. Cause those are only holes I see really.... they need someone consistent uptop, probably could use a defensive upgrade as Barzagli's been good but I wouldn't rely on him, and if you wanna use 3 mans you need 3 anyway, and maybe a better winger/AM type.
 

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better than a team built around zlatan? hah

if jube went through what Milan went through in terms of injuries, they'll be struggling to get a CL spot.

Milan have had tons of key players injured through out the season, got raped by refs and are still only 1 point behind the fairy's jube despite having more fixtures.

how about you take off your "i luv fairy" glasses and give credit to Milan, jube do deserve credit this season, but they have been incredibly lucky since Milan have had horrific injury list + other teams in serie A got worse or stayed the same.

More entertaining? Milan's football is much better when they have their main starting XI.
 

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how about you take off your "i luv fairy" glasses and give credit to Milan, jube do deserve credit this season, but they have been incredibly lucky since Milan have had horrific injury list + other teams in serie A got worse or stayed the same.

I have nothing but love for allegri. The fact we're 2 points back and still realistically going to win league, is a credit to the man. Excellent manager.

But credit must be given to Conte too....

More entertaining? Milan's football is much better when they have their main starting XI.

To each their own. Give me a team built on CM over forwards any day of week.
 

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Yeah, the funniest is when people feel that to support Allegri, they must diss Conte. Or vice versa.

They are 2 awesome young coaches. The next gen of super Italian coaches, after the Ancelotti-Mancini-Spalleti-Prandelli generation.
 

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I have to agree with Sage. If we had spent as much as juve did in getting the players that make pirlo to work, we would be miles in front, not to mention the injuries. Of course that don't include the cost of zlatan to begin with, and pirlo went for nothing. However you wish to twist and turn it, letting him go was a mistake. A title deciding mistake.
 

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will conte be able to achieve the same if he was in allegri's situation? I hardly think so.


a fully fit squad all season with no european fixtures, if allegri had that with Milan the league would have been decided weeks ago.
 

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will conte be able to achieve the same if he was in allegri's situation? I hardly think so.


a fully fit squad all season with no european fixtures, if allegri had that with Milan the league would have been decided weeks ago.

:thumbsup:

A fully fit squad would have had no problems in Serie A even despite the CL games.
 

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will conte be able to achieve the same if he was in allegri's situation? I hardly think so.


a fully fit squad all season with no european fixtures, if allegri had that with Milan the league would have been decided weeks ago.

Yes, Milan are definitely a stronger squad than Juve. There are no doubts about that. Without CL fixtures, we would have certainly been ahead.

Would Conte be able to do the same in Allegri's place? No clue and no facts to suggest either way. The guy has done a 10/10 job with Juventus. He has been tactically versatile and a good man-manager. So we dont know the limits of his capabilities as of now. Let us see next season.
 

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I would say that Contes first year at a top club has been more impressive then Allegris first one, many will problaby will disagree with me (expecting Mr Millansta posting some pictures of Allegri to prove me wrong). But the way Conte has totally turned around a team that finished 7 th back to back, not in only terms of how they play but also their attitude, to a serious contender for the league title is very impressive.

It will be very intresseting second year for Juventus and Conte, and its to tell if they will mange to keep up the same pace.

Nice to see that two of the most intressting young coaches in the world are Italian.
 

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Its annoying that we let Pirlo go when we finally got mobile players that he would have worked well with, Nocerino, Prince, Binho all do a lot of running which would have been very good with Pirlo's passing.

And while we have had far more injuries than Juve, our overall quality is much better, so we have still often had a better team despite injuries.

Conte has done a good job with what he has, many of us didnt think that would be that dangerous this season, and they have played well.

If they sign a star striker this summer like they are rumored to be planning (Cavani or Dzeko it seems are targets) they could become a very very dangerous team
 

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I do know Conte did an impressive job both at Siena and Bari (and had a fallout with Atalanta, but that always seemed to be more aimed with the fans), and I seem to recall everyone in here laughing at him being tactically regid cause everyone expected 4-2-2-2 with Pirlo on and everyone expecting Juventus to fall in 5-6th place again, so now that he has shown all of us otherwise, our excuses are "he hasn't faced injury problems" "he has played less games than us", all valid, but we're forgetting Juventus in the past few seasons was even worse with injuries than us this season, even when they weren't fighting for anything in Europe, Conte went there and started a completely different trainning regime, and regardless of not playing as many games as we have, it is impressive how they've been able to keep most of their squad intact for the season. He has shown he's able to adapt to tactics, in fact, he found the best way to get the best out of all his players. And they've played very well many games, yes there's some here and there that have been a bore to watch, but most of the time they play really good football. And they have the Juventus attitude, you know, that attitude they had when Conte played. Juventus success has always relied on 3-4 top players + a bunch of decent/average/some good players with lots of grit an attitude, I'm seeing that alot in this side (you know that fucking annoying Juventus attitude, argh, they're bastards and they know it and they go on the field to show it and they don't give up easily).

Would he be there without Pirlo? Yeah well a) I thought Pirlo was done, or that was what many here were convinced of b) it's not like that's unfair advantage c) knowing how to use Pirlo at his best takes a special talent (and it's not that easy to understand it seems, considering we wasted him for around 3-4 years...and once we found a way to get him going that injury hit).

They're 2-3 players away from really taking it to a whole different level, and it's not impossible to believe that will happen considering a) they'll return to CL (which is now our source of laughter "lolz they'll fail in the CL so hard lolz" after his wig), b) the revenue from their stadium.

(that said, nothing against Allegri, I also love watching his moves, and getting the best out of his squad).

As for Pirlo himself, I do believe that he's not incompatible with Allegri's tactics as pre injury he was very much a starter and a key player. The situation here was financial, and in that sense I don't think it was wrong for either part to demand anything (tbf, Pirlo is younger than the other senatori, but tbf, his salary was a bit of a weight for us too)...but football wise, he would be here, and he would be key and we did wasted him for 3-4 years, always said and I'll stand by that.
 
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So when we had Pirlo playing like shit for 3-4 years , his fan boys used to say he was playing great & the best midfielder in the world.
Now that he is gone , suddenly they are singing a new song that is called "we wasted him for 3-years" which is an implication he wasnt good in those "3-4" years regardless of the reason.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm .....
 

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So when we had Pirlo playing like shit for 3-4 years , his fan boys used to say he was playing great & the best midfielder in the world.
Now that he is gone , suddenly they are singing a new song that is called "we wasted him for 3-years" which is an implication he wasnt good in those "3-4" years regardless of the reason.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm .....

He did play fine. We wasted his talent.

He wasn't the problem, the staticness of the squad was...
 

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He did play fine. We wasted his talent.

He wasn't the problem, the staticness of the squad was...

He wasn't motivated. Couldn't give a single fuck anymore. Fucking Ji-Sung Park man marked him for entire 90 mins and he couldn't even bother to do nothing but jog.
 

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He wasn't motivated. Couldn't give a single fuck anymore. Fucking Ji-Sung Park man marked him for entire 90 mins and he couldn't even bother to do nothing but jog.

Myth.

We just had no plan B, and he had nowhere to go with it. He's not doing much more with Juventus, other than fact team effectively moves and he can play it off someone if he's pressured.
 

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