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Will Kaka belong to Berlusconi?


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LOL ... you're one to question about "FACTS" yet talk about Silvio doing a policewoman doggy style - NEWS FLASH, the video was a fake. Just one example of how biased you are, and are only looking at few selected events to defend your immortal saint who hath done no wrong ...

And if you are indeed the knowledgeable Milan fan you portray yourself to be, you would very well know that Kaka' lied to us = a FACT.

A liar is a hypocrite, and Kaka' dived against us on Tuesday.

And need I remind you what his name means?

Therefore, FUCKING DIVING HYPOCRITE PIECE OF SHIT is all about FACTS ...

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allways knew that you arent the smartest here, but...
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The sad thing is Kaka, CR9, Messi and Torres are pretty much the same...they work hard to bring results to their club...even if they have to dive (which I hate btw) to get a fk/pen. The thing is the VAST majority of you didn't mind it (most notable exception was Wild who called him out for doing it) when he wore our colours because truth be told if it wasn't for MANY of his alleged dives we mightn't even have qualifies for the CL last year.

The other thing is that Kaka, CR9 and co. are very fast and powerful players....so when they get hurt/fouled the probability for injury is high...it's sometimes safer to go to ground than stay up and get hammered. But it's not like the lot of you don't know this.....Just like pictures of him and his young wife and his kid were being splashed all around the forum with thousands of the " :proud: " smiley...the bitterness and hypocricy is reaching epidemic proportions now.

Kaka is a GREAT player. He's not perfect and he probably did lie at some point. But whatever he did pales in comparison to the shit that Berlu did and probably will do to us in the future. To me he is essentially a good man and it's sad that some would take every illusion of an opportunity to shit on him
 

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LOL ... you're one to question about "FACTS" yet talk about Silvio doing a policewoman doggy style - NEWS FLASH, the video was a fake. Just one example of how biased you are, and are only looking at few selected events to defend your immortal saint who hath done no wrong ...

And if you are indeed the knowledgeable Milan fan you portray yourself to be, you would very well know that Kaka' lied to us = a FACT.

A liar is a hypocrite, and Kaka' dived against us on Tuesday.

And need I remind you what his name means?

Therefore, FUCKING DIVING HYPOCRITE PIECE OF SHIT is all about FACTS ...

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Maybe that video is fake. Everything else is still true and saying im ''looking at few selected events'' just makes it seem your clueless about what awsome
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things are heppening in italy almost daily on accout of berlu.

defend your immortal saint who hath done no wrong ...

Ah, trying to put words in my mouth and failing miserably after failling to read my posts about admitting I may be wrong about judas. :star:FACT:star:
 

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I genuinely hate gloryhunting shit....you know the same people that go :proud: for Inzaghi when he dives...then do apeshit against another guy that does the same thing for another team....the same people that praise Gattuso for his sometimes violent behaviour but breathe fire and brimstone against Materazzi......the same people that shat all over Ronaldo but stand resoltuely behind borriello etc etc :rolleyes:
 

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Again, you misunderstand me. How does him diving for a penalty on Tuesday equate to:

:rolleyes:

Honestly ... you're not basing your arguments on FACTS, such as Kaka' being a liar.
What does even that matter. Its a matter of opinion how well he played against Milan, but fact is he always dived, its part of his game and he dived against Milan. Only now that is a problem for Milan fans? He would be a hypocrite if he dives against everyone and not against Milan. Some of your own twisted logic right there. :)

btw saying I would like to become captain and icon and whatnot like Maldini and Baresi, (in case my boss doesn't DECIDE TO SELL me at some point) doesn't equate to I will definitely become Milan captain and legend no matter the circumstances. Honestly, if the economic crisis that scared the shit out of Berlu was a decade ago and defenders were more expensive, I assume he would have accepted an offer for Maldini as well. What do you think Maldini would do then, huh? Any FACT as an answer, because thats what you constantly do, speculate stuff to fit your bitter scenario and then call it FACTS.

Ronaldo9, am sure there are a lot RM forums whose members share the same level of IQ with you, you'll probably feel much smarter there
is that supposed to be another jab at Madrid's expense? Oh how will they recover from that... I guess nine champions league trophies might help...

Too bad there isn't any forum on earth for your level of intelligence.
 

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Just one example of how biased you are, and are only looking at few selected events to defend your immortal saint who hath done no wrong ...
No one ever said that Kaka was perfect. Good men do bad thins too ...newsflash!

And if you are indeed the knowledgeable Milan fan you portray yourself to be, you would very well know that Kaka' lied to us = a FACT.
Wrong again...he said that he wanted to become like Maldini. He also had a habit of placing in a disclaimer in his statements by saying that "as long as he's wanted by Milan" and "it's up to the directors".

A liar is a hypocrite, and Kaka' dived against us on Tuesday.
No a liar is a liar and a hypocrite could be very truthful.....all a hypocrite has to do is say true stuff at the right time to give a wrong impression that he's a certain way.

And need I remind you what his name means?

Therefore, FUCKING DIVING HYPOCRITE PIECE OF SHIT is all about FACTS ...
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight :rolleyes:

In other news it's hard to believe a certain R&B poster once said:
I don't get you guys wanting Kaka' to leave. I mean, he's arguably the best player in the world + definitely the best in our team by quite some margin. Sure we'll get a lot of money off this deal but who are we going to buy? There's a difference between world class players and match winners - who are very scarce at the moment. We can buy quite a few Essiens, RVNs, Ronaldos, Pirlos, Gattusos, etc. with that money. But to me, Kaka' is priceless and the last thing we should do is let him go!

Keep him at all costs. Promise him that the inevitable new era @ Milan will be built around him + show how important he'll be to Milan's future. And most importantly, do the exact same thing ... if we build a team around Kaka', our future will be bright.

Tsar, your photo editing was appalling :o
I'm not an avid follower of the media, so I may have missed those statements. As far as I know, the only reference to Maldini and Billy that he made was when talking about how special Milan is. That one need not look any further than the two greats to understand the 'essence' of Milan. Perhaps I missed out on his statements suggesting his desire to be a Milan legend. Would like to read it though if anyone has a link :)
Another forum "legend" then replied:
he never mentioned about bein' a Milan symbol like Costacurta or Maldini... he said they were examples he followed... how much drive they have etc...

And in conclusion what ricky really said notice the date and that it confirms that he's been saying the same thing since day 1:
July 24, 2007

Kaka: I did not ask for Real move

MILAN, Italy (Reuters) -- Brazil playmaker Kaka said on Tuesday he was committed to AC Milan and had never asked for a transfer to Spanish champions Real Madrid.

Kaka says he never asked for a move to Spanish giants Real Madrid.

The European champions have spent most of the close season repelling Real's advances for 25-year-old Kaka, one of the best players in the world.

Milan said in June they were aware Kaka's father had met Madrid officials.

Kaka, who was rested from the Copa America at Milan's request, has been back in Brazil and had stayed silent on the matter until now.

"I have never demanded anything at Milan, I have never asked to renew my contract, to leave or to have a clause to rescind it like many have said," Kaka told a news conference at Milan's training ground.

"There was a meeting with Real Madrid and Milan were the first to know about it."

Milan President Silvio Berlusconi reaffirmed on Monday that Kaka would not be sold.

"The fans can stay calm, what president Berlusconi said yesterday is certain. I have a contract with Milan until 2011, the door for Real Madrid is closed and only Milan can reopen it if they decide to sell me," Kaka said.

"I see myself as a symbol of Milan."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SPORT/football/07/24/milan.kaka.reut/index.html?eref=rss_latest

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I genuinely hate gloryhunting shit....you know the same people that go :proud: for Inzaghi when he dives...then do apeshit against another guy that does the same thing for another team....the same people that praise Gattuso for his sometimes violent behaviour but breathe fire and brimstone against Materazzi......the same people that shat all over Ronaldo but stand resoltuely behind borriello etc etc :rolleyes:

:star: It only a big deal b/c he dive against Milan.:head: What he was suppose to do was try not to score, pass or even move against Milan. He not suppose to help his team win by the logic of this board. :conf:
 

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If no one has ever told a lie to get people to stop harassing you (on a lesser scale obviously, we aren't all sports stars) and/or get out of a tight spot, then go on and bash all you want.

Bunch of hypocrites.
 

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who give a shit
forget him, he is gone done carry him on our minds

thanks for the commitment and 65 million dollars, you wont be forgotten but you are no baresi

thank you
 

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forget him, he is gone done carry him on our minds

thanks for the commitment and 65 million dollars, you wont be forgotten but you are no baresi

thank you

Exactly, thank you very much.
 

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Maybe that video is fake. Everything else is still true and saying im ''looking at few selected events'' just makes it seem your clueless about what awsome things are heppening in italy almost daily on accout of berlu.[/QUOTE]
I know, to some extent, what is happening in Italy and with Berlu. How else would I be able to tell you that video was a fake? ;)
[QUOTE]Ah, trying to put words in my mouth and failing miserably after failling to read my posts about admitting I may be wrong about judas. :star:FACT:star:[/QUOTE]
Sorry ... I may have missed that bit between all the smileys and Kaka > Berlufuckbitchshit.
[QUOTE="drucurl, post: 615585, member: 8141"]I genuinely hate gloryhunting shit....you know the same people that go :proud: for Inzaghi when he dives...then do apeshit against another guy that does the same thing for another team....the same people that praise Gattuso for his sometimes violent behaviour but breathe fire and brimstone against Materazzi......the same people that shat all over Ronaldo but stand resoltuely behind borriello etc etc :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Says the one who promised to stop routing for Milan if this shit continues :proud:

And what does this have to do with gloryhunting? Isn't gloryhunting all about changing sides according to which team is successful at the time? Kind of like what Kaka' did? From Milan is best to Real Madrid is the best team in world?

[QUOTE="Ronaldo9, post: 615586, member: 7368"]What does even that matter. Its a matter of opinion how well he played against Milan, but fact is he always dived, its part of his game and he dived against Milan. Only now that is a problem for Milan fans? He would be a hypocrite if he dives against everyone and not against Milan. Some of your own twisted logic right there. :)[/QUOTE]
Never said that. I was just saying that comments like:
[QUOTE="drucurl, post: 615353, member: 8141"]What I do know is that he truly didn't want to leave and it was pretty obvious from the way he played against us.[/QUOTE]
[B]are opinions, whereas him diving against Milan + lying to Milan fans are FACTS[/B]. Stop twisting my words. Of course he dived as a Milan player, but that is besides the point I was making.
[QUOTE]btw saying I [B]would like[/B] to become captain and icon and whatnot like Maldini and Baresi, (in case my boss doesn't DECIDE TO SELL me at some point) doesn't equate to I [B]will definitely[/B] become Milan captain and legend no matter the circumstances.[/QUOTE]
He knew very well the situation, least he could have done was be honest about it. If I remember correctly, he said that he "pledges" his long-term future to Milan, and he wanted to become a Milan symbol, legend and captain like Paolo Maldini.

Anyway, he said the same thing countless times ... many more than Sheva. He gave his word, and promised to lead Milan. And I'm sure you all remember his glorious [B]act[/B] refusal of Man City.

You can try to twist and turn the words all you want, but his message was very clear. Even days before doing the Madrid medical ... :head: ... that was the killer.

In the end, he said something and did the entire opposite ... the definition of a [B]HYPOCRITE[/B] :star:

And that my friends is a :star:FACT:star:
[QUOTE]Honestly, if the economic crisis that scared the shit out of Berlu was a decade ago and defenders were more expensive, I assume he would have accepted an offer for Maldini as well. What do you think Maldini would do then, huh? Any FACT as an answer, because thats what you constantly do, speculate stuff to fit your bitter scenario and then call it FACTS.[/QUOTE]
You just shut it there with Paolo. Have you no shame? The guys gave his all to Milan ... and you have nerve to post such garbage? Honestly, think before you post nonsense.

And no ... that is not what I was doing. That is what you and your ilk are doing just to paint a nice picture for Kaka'. Honestly, you lot will go to any length to portray him as a victim of sorts ... even degrade individuals who have sacrificed and done so much more for Milan. SHAME on you :head:

And what I said is: Kaka' lied, which is a fact. Kaka' diving against Milan and all was just for the extra name calling which all your protests have indirectly created.

[QUOTE="Redman10, post: 615595, member: 16682"]:star: It only a big deal b/c he dive against Milan.:head: [B]What he was suppose to do was try not to score[/B], pass or even move against Milan. He not suppose to help his team win by the logic of this board. :conf:[/QUOTE]
No ... try to play fair and to show some respect to the team and players who helped him achieve all he did. Not dive, which is CHEATING!!!!
[QUOTE="Calum1903, post: 615645, member: 15024"]So which one of you [I]is[/I] the best fan?[/QUOTE]
The best Milan fan? Clearly the one who says FORZA KAKA" :star::cool:;):D:cry::(:proud:;):tongue:;):cry::o (a Real Madrid player) and FUCK!! BERLUSHUT ... and all you who don't agree are gloryhunter :star:

[B][U]I say ... FUCK YOU DIVING HYPOCRITE PIECE OF SHIT![/U][/B]
 

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He's not our player anymore, so let's give it a rest.
 

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Who said anything bad about Maldini? All I said is that if he was put in the same situation as Kaka, a club willing to shell out an insane amount of money on him and his boss wanting to cash in on him, there is a sound possibility that he would have done the same. Thankfully it didn't happen like that and he's a legend now, but it makes you wonder to what margin loyalty goes and if there really is something like unconditional love for a club in football no matter what the circumstances are. And please don't you go shame on me for asking a hypothetical question about Maldini after all the disgusting disrespect you've shown for an even bigger legend, Ronaldo. I can say whatever the fuck I want about him but at least I have some courtesy and value unlike you.

As for Kaka's diving against Milan, I don't know how you can even mention it as a relevant argument in a discussion about him being a flawed character or something. It is hard to take you seriously with statements like that he shouldn't dive against Milan.
 

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Says the one who promised to stop routing for Milan if this shit continues :proud:

And what does this have to do with gloryhunting? Isn't gloryhunting all about changing sides according to which team is successful at the time? Kind of like what Kaka' did? From Milan is best to Real Madrid is the best team in world?


I say ... FUCK YOU DIVING HYPOCRITE PIECE OF SHIT!
I never did promise to stop routing for Milan if the shit continued. You're not just a twisted f**k but a blatant liar. But I'm done with you as your own posts show you up :cool:

Oh and in case you didn't know Real Madrid IS the best team in the world. They have more CL's and league titles than us.
 

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Honestly, if the economic crisis that scared the shit out of Berlu was a decade ago and defenders were more expensive, I assume he would have accepted an offer for Maldini as well. What do you think Maldini would do then, huh? Any FACT as an answer, because thats what you constantly do, speculate stuff to fit your bittertscenario and then call it FACTS.

Maldini started cutting his wages back in 01 for Milan (he did had an increase in his last season, which kind of left me a bit uhm, to be honest, but damn it, for what he did for Milan in 25 years, it wasn't even that big) . He also had the oportunity to leave Milan (and he thought of it) while we were real shit, and finishing 10-11th (not 5th or 4th), and the fans protesting constantly against him and the old guard. As you know, he never left Milan. And lastly, do you think Maldini never got big offers from other big clubs? ;).
 

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Sorry ... I may have missed that bit between all the smileys and Kaka > Berlufuckbitchshit.

Fair enough, I forgive your sins;)

although is still stand by Kaka > Berlufuckbitchshit, obviously not i a sense of who done more for the club but as who i think of the 2 is the bigger PIECE OF FUCKING DOGSHIT!

But yeah, he aint our player anymore + everyone has their opinion so leave it be.

 

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Maldini started cutting his wages back in 01 for Milan (he did had an increase in his last season, which kind of left me a bit uhm, to be honest, but damn it, for what he did for Milan in 25 years, it wasn't even that big) . He also had the oportunity to leave Milan (and he thought of it) while we were real shit, and finishing 10-11th (not 5th or 4th), and the fans protesting constantly against him and the old guard. As you know, he never left Milan. And lastly, do you think Maldini never got big offers from other big clubs? ;).
Well its fairly logical that when you pass 30, you are slowly going to lower your standard of performances and the reduction of wages should follow. We will never know if Kaka would have done the same if he stayed here until 30 (though I think he wouldn't have, not because he's a jerk but because its a different world in football right now). But as you say, he did thought of leaving Milan, and I don't really remember anyone having interest in him as much as Madrid had for Kaka and any concrete offers.
 

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I never did promise to stop routing for Milan if the shit continued. You're not just a twisted f**k but a blatant liar. But I'm done with you as your own posts show you up :cool:

Oh and in case you didn't know Real Madrid IS the best team in the world. They have more CL's and league titles than us.

shut up...
 

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LOL ... Rangers have won 50+ Scottish league titles. Doesn't that make them the most successful club in the world then? :D

That is why international trophies were created. In which case, Milan have won more than any other team in world ;)

Finally, Maldini is the best LB in football history. At least, most knowledgeable people would agree. 5 UCLs today is an almost immortal accomplishment - I say today, because in the 50s, competition was hardly this stiff. If you honestly think offers didn't come his way, then you are nothing short of being deluded.

Fair enough, I forgive your sins;)
As I do yours ...

When its all said and done, I don't think Kaka' even makes the best XI Milan team during Berlu's era ;)
 

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LOL ... Rangers have won 50+ Scottish league titles. Doesn't that make them the most successful club in the world then? :D
That is why international trophies were created. In which case, Milan have won more than any other team in world ;)
[/QUOTE]note I listed their CL haul + their domestic haul. All the other frilly trophies (supercup, CWC etc) that Galliani waves in front of us don't compare to either a league title or a CL....but you already know that ;)
 

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Like I said, by that logic, Rangers probably are the most successful team in history :star:

And by the way ... competing in the Super Cup and CWC are considered prestigious enough by players like Messi and Rooney, that they visibly showed their frustrations when losing. Heck even the HYPOCRITE made a big deal of our Sevilla win, which was won by Pirlo anyway ;)

And in order to compete in those competitions, you would need to win the UCL or Europa League to begin with.
 

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