Leonardo Thread

[dev1L]

http://www.gazzetta.it/primapagina/

 

[drucurl]

It's all clear to me

Maybe Ron isn't the problem after all. Neither are our much maligned fullbacks.


The squad needs work but seriously the more I watch Milan the moree it looks like they ALL suck. Pato is shit, Seedorf and Pirlo even Gattuso looks like a complete moron. ronaldinho being one of the newest member would obviously be the most confused. Hunt is as clueless as Alicia Silverstone.

I think Leo is the problem. We aren't as strong as Inter or Juve...let alone Real Barca etc but we sure as hell are better than Livorno, Bari and Zurich. Leo's system has them confused....and by the time they can do something they f**k up because it's Italy and the defenses have closed them into forcing errors.

 

[Centre]

does it seem to anyone else that our entire team wants to do nothing but play balls over the top to the strikers (unsuccessfully)?... i know pirlo has always liked those types of passes but it seems like EVERYONE is doing it now... leo's strategy perhaps? or maybe its just me and i'm imagining it going on more than before..

 

[Congo Powers]

Maybe Ron isn't the problem after all. Neither are our much maligned fullbacks.


The squad needs work but seriously the more I watch Milan the moree it looks like they ALL suck. Pato is shit, Seedorf and Pirlo even Gattuso looks like a complete moron. ronaldinho being one of the newest member would obviously be the most confused. Hunt is as clueless as Alicia Silverstone.

I think Leo is the problem. We aren't as strong as Inter or Juve...let alone Real Barca etc but we sure as hell are better than Livorno, Bari and Zurich. Leo's system has them confused....and by the time they can do something they f**k up because it's Italy and the defenses have closed them into forcing errors.

from what i've observed...its not like leonardo has implemented some difficult/advanced tactical system...infact its 90% the same as ancelotti's. so i don't think our woes are a matter of players being 2 confused to grasp the system. maybe more so of them sucking dick..being past it/unmotivated. maybe leo is to blame for the motivation (laughable as that notion seems) but ultimately the players go out on the field and play.

 

[Wild]

does it seem to anyone else that our entire team wants to do nothing but play balls over the top to the strikers (unsuccessfully)?... i know pirlo has always liked those types of passes but it seems like EVERYONE is doing it now... leo's strategy perhaps? or maybe its just me and i'm imagining it going on more than before..

This isnt a way 2 bash Pirlo but players/teams who go 4 the long ball r usually the hopeless.
When they cant do shit they just kick the ball.
Milan players r frustrated that they cant get pass their opponent , ala Pirlo , so they pull a Pirlo.

 

[Centre]

This isnt a way 2 bash Pirlo but players/teams who go 4 the long ball r usually the hopeless.
When they cant do shit they just kick the ball.
Milan players r frustrated that they cant get pass their opponent , ala Pirlo , so they pull a Pirlo.

i understand that theory but it just seemed like everyone is doing it now... even players that havent in the past... like i said maybe its just me imagining things... i was just wondering if anyone else noticed if players seemed to looking for a long ball as the first option more than they used to and if possibly leo had influenced it...

 

[Senatore_M84]

from what i've observed...its not like leonardo has implemented some difficult/advanced tactical system...infact its 90% the same as ancelotti's. so i don't think our woes are a matter of players being 2 confused to grasp the system. maybe more so of them sucking dick..being past it/unmotivated. maybe leo is to blame for the motivation (laughable as that notion seems) but ultimately the players go out on the field and play.

I think leo is making the classic mistake of tactic over personnel. ESPECIALLY when you have a limited squad and funds, you can't come all idealistic wanting to play like brazil or arsenal.

I think if he had the players he wanted we could more accurately judge him. That being said, he needs to switch it up to the personnel more so, and even in doing so, using 'uglier' tactics I question if this squad could get up to 4th....

Mazzari put it best, the squad is just too unathletic and slow. Skill is skill, and u can get away w/ 1 or 2 players who r skill over athletism. When its 9 or 10 players like that, who physically can't compete... you got problems..

 

[Wild]

i understand that theory but it just seemed like everyone is doing it now... even players that havent in the past... like i said maybe its just me imagining things... i was just wondering if anyone else noticed if players seemed to looking for a long ball as the first option more than they used to and if possibly leo had influenced it...

U missed the point.
It is what u r sayin & its about frustration which describe Milan.
Its a ship without a captain & there is no1 2 make shit happen.
So every player is his own captain & since their resources = meh -- > lets get rid of the ball ASAP + as far as we can.

 

[Ali Daei]

U missed the point.
It is what u r sayin & its about frustration which describe Milan.
Its a ship without a captain & there is no1 2 make shit happen.
So every player is his own captain & since their resources = meh -- > lets get rid of the ball ASAP + as far as we can.

u are right but as the english say "when in doubt boot it out", thats the first thing that comes to mind before scroing a goal and winning.

 

[Centre]

U missed the point.
It is what u r sayin & its about frustration which describe Milan.
Its a ship without a captain & there is no1 2 make shit happen.
So every player is his own captain & since their resources = meh -- > lets get rid of the ball ASAP + as far as we can.

i get the point... and you could be right that the team has no direction and is deteriorating to that... but people like nesta, silva, ambro, janku are launching long balls when they arent under pressure and in turn giving away possession when they could make a simple pass and try to build an attack... not that we are any good at that right now either... i dunno...

 

[GreatKalu]

I think its Leo telling them to get the quick ball in, so that opponent doesn't have the time to create two barriers of walls, just one.

From what I've seen, the general idea is to play a high defensive line, pass between them + launch a long ball to find someone. By playing the high D line, the midfielders are further up the field to help win + put pressure if the opponents get the ball. Notice almost every time Nesta or Silva launches one, there is no open Pirlo/Rino/Ambro/Flamini because they are either tightly marked or venturing further forward.

In the end, its really hard to figure out exactly what is wrong, because its hard to figure out what the are doing. Such is the extent of disorganization.

 

[Australiano1980]

i get the point... and you could be right that the team has no direction and is deteriorating to that... but people like nesta, silva, ambro, janku are launching long balls when they arent under pressure and in turn giving away possession when they could make a simple pass and try to build an attack... not that we are any good at that right now either... i dunno...

This was happen with Anceloti too.. the players dont come closer of each other, dont give options one to another and they get rid of the ball.
Remember how the team play better when they are able to stay more compact.

 

[r3dman]

...they pull a Pirlo.

Funny!

Leo is shit, but then again so is most of the team. It's difficult to say who's at fault.

 

[agsgualdino]

www.milannews.it

leo demands reinforcements in January. So he should. he better fucken get these guys now.

 

[Gattuso #8]

www.milannews.it

leo demands reinforcements in January. So he should. he better fucken get these guys now.

yeah he'll get his fullback...Roberto Carlos

 

[Milanista_7]

www.milannews.it

leo demands reinforcements in January. So he should. he better fucken get these guys now.

if he demands new reinforcement he risking get fired very soon.

 

[Sod-Lod]

Juande Ramos per la panchina rossonera
03.10.2009 13:46 di Luca Iannone.

Stando a quanto riportato dall'edizione odierna del quotidiano spagnolo As, Juande Ramos, già accostato alla panchina del Milan qualche settimana fa, potrebbe essere il prossimo tecnico dei rossoneri. L'ex allenatore del Real Madrid, che si è da poco seduto sulla panchina del CSKA Mosca, è secondo la stampa iberica qualcosa più che candidato, nonostante rescindere un contratto appena firmato non sia semplicissimo.

English Reader

Juande Ramos on the bench Rossoneri
03.10.2009 13:46 by Luca Iannone.

According to Guyana, reported today in the Spanish newspaper As, Juande Ramos, already approached the bench in Milan a few weeks ago, could be the next technical the Rossoneri. The former coach of Real Madrid, who has just sat on the bench of CSKA Moscow, according to press Iberian something more than the candidate, despite terminate a contract just signed is not easy.

What the Hell

 

[Dwa Milan]

Leo probably pissed with the management for not getting him reinforcement, If he does well, we will not get anyone until summer so with this shaky start he can forced them to get reinforcement hahaha LOL

 

[SixOneFive]

www.milannews.it

leo demands reinforcements in January. So he should. he better fucken get these guys now.

Sounds good.

 

[peters]

does it seem to anyone else that our entire team wants to do nothing but play balls over the top to the strikers (unsuccessfully)?... i know pirlo has always liked those types of passes but it seems like EVERYONE is doing it now... leo's strategy perhaps? or maybe its just me and i'm imagining it going on more than before..

i noticed that too, specially our CBs... they are the last before the keeper but they pump the ball upfield too much. We are skipping midfield with that kind of passes and most of them are not very accurate, or lead to a position that could be easily worked with ball on the ground.

True, pumping the ball makes up for lacking of technical play... but its natural, our players lately cannot string more than 5 semi challenging passes together. Having our game-man set with pirlo who excels with that makes it only worse. Thats why i'd like to see pirlo on more advanced role (skipping midfield from their half is impossible hehe) or someone else in pirlo's place. Try to put the ball down a bit, dammit!

 

[Astafjevs]

We aren't as strong as Inter or Juve...let alone Real Barca etc but we sure as hell are better than Livorno, Bari and Zurich. Leo's system has them confused....and by the time they can do something they f**k up because it's Italy and the defenses have closed them into forcing errors.

This is why I'm starting to think Leo is the issue. We should be beating these rubbish teams, we have the squad to do so.

 

[GreatKalu]

This is why I'm starting to think Leo is the issue. We should be beating these rubbish teams, we have the squad to do so.

There's no doubt that Milan is playing at a level lesser than the sum of its talents. That is Leo's responsibility.

 

[WILL2K]

I would say give Leo a chance till the game against Roma to prove himself, if the performances are far from convincing and the results are negative, it is right that he should be asked to resign his job as a coach.

It would be a little harsh to judge his ability based on games against Bari and Zurich as even Master Tactician Carlo Ancelotti didn't manage to win against' supposed weak teams' last season and if we can recall, he even managed to get Milan knocked out of UEFA at home and also lost to smaller teams.

Our problem lies more on the management-no point mentioning for now and the squad- everybody =+1 year of age , - Maldini & Kaka. Abate, Di Gennaro and Huntelaar are still raw here and unproven. Flaimini has yet to show his Arsenal form.

Let's see if Leo can grind out favorable results against Atlanta and Roma, if not then we will need to hire an experienced manager who can motivate players to run their ass off +get results.

 

[Wild]

Milan is depleted & what make things worse is that our players think they r actually big.
Kaka was dragging the team & our other champions just needed 2 show up.
Now when they r asked 2 step up reality hit em hard & they found that only their ego is big.
Give Leo lesser players with Abate's mentality (hungry,modest...) & b sure he will do good.
Give our losers champions 2 any coach & he will fail unless he ................. BENCH EM ALL.
This team need a revolution.

 

[Sod-Lod]

WITH AGGRESSIVENESS​

10/3/2009 4:42:00 PM

Ahead of the match against Atalanta, Leonardo gave a press conference at Milanello and spoke about the delicate moment and how the team should go on the pitch to face their opponents.

MILANELLO - Here are the declarations made by coach Leonardo, ahead of the match against Atalanta, during this afternoon's press conference at Milanello:

ON THE 2016 OLYMPICS IN RIO DE JANEIRO
"Rio De Janeiro is a wonderful city which was recently elected the most beautiful city in the world and after this news the level increased even further. Thinking about the World Cup in 2014 and the Olympics being both in Brazil is a very positive thing also for the country's economy. Seeing the emotion of Lula and Pelé, I watched it live, it was really a great emotion, like when Milan score, a wonderful thing, I'm more than happy."




ON THE TEAM
"During training I tried a few different things, even though I think this team has been playing together for so many years that things have already been tried in the past, so we tried certain movements, certain mechanisms for this match. But we are not changing the basis of this team.
Today we are a team made to attack, to dictate the rhythm of the match, but when we don't manage to do that we do suffer. We have to find the right compactness and right now we are thinking about doing well without changing too much, maintaining the basis of this team. Now we are getting into games with some players out injured because we are playing so many games close together. You try a lot of things, with patience, but it's not easy to handle a group which has played eight games in a short period of time and there can also be physical problems. Against the Zurich the first half was the worst because the goal killed us. We were coming off the match against Bari and conceding a goal immediately penalised us.
This team is made to attack, there are players who are doing better when they come in during the match compared to when they start."

ON MILAN'S MOMENT
"I don't like to think about my own situation, I don't care about that. I am doing my job, any coach could have found himself in my situation, it's normal that if results don't come these talks don't exist.
We know everything here, we are all clear between each other, I don't give and go on. When I talk with the lads after the games I see in them the desire to keep going, and to do better. Then there are also external factors, like fears. We have a harmony of mentality, although it's clear that results aren't satisying."


ON SILVIO BERLUSCONI
"I spoke with Silvio Berlusconi half an hour ago. He's always very close to us, in good and bad times, then we'll see what happens, but we'll always keep in touch to discuss the situation. We talked about what's happening, as always."

ON NESTA
"The availability of the players was never missing, from none of them. Nesta is the symbol of this because with all the problems he's had and what he went through, his desire is contagious."

ON PATO
"When a team isn't doing well it's felt by everyone. He is a player who with his moves can solve any situation. The key is that he has to find the motivation to do better, he knows he has to be more active to make sure things go better.

Pato's lack of decisiveness isn't just down to a physical problem. To find yourself in a one-on-one situation the right timing is necessary and this depends a lot on the team's movements: everyone has to make sure that Pato himself has space and is able to make runs like the one he made against Roma in front of Mexes, but it's a mixture of different mechanisms that has to work."

ON THE VOICES REGARDING HIS FUTURE
"I am responsible and if we lose it's my fault, and of the ones who picked me. The blame should be shared. This is a global project, but we are not at the end. Let's hope we find the right solutions to take the positive road."

ON THE JUDGEMENTS ON FOREIGN COACHES AND HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CLUB
"I only try to take what can help me from the judgements. I hear a lot of judgements, a judgement can be conditioned by many things, I know the mechanisms of how these judgements are formed, but I go forward on my road. I don't look for alibis, I know everything. I don't think there are definitive judgements, I continue to try and improve certain things, but at the moment unfortunately the results don't give me the tranquility to do that. We have to go forward with our weapons despite unfortunate things like injuries. My relationship with the club has to be used for the team's good. The fact I was part of the management and that the team trusts me doesn't count, my duty is to send the players on the pitch and make them win.
I am not worried about not being a coach in the near future, I only want Milan's good, but right now it's not right to think about this."

ON HUNTELAAR
"A striker needs goals, matches. He has not arrived at a simple time, not only because of results, so it's difficult to give a judgement, he has to be given time and I think he will give us a great hand."

ON RONALDINHO
"I judge what I see on the pitch, what he can give, how long he can resist on the pitch, and not what happens off it. In the last few days I saw him having more desire and more availability."

ON ABATE
"A player needs to have a fixed role and I think that on the wings it's necessary to have players who play a lot of consecutive games to give consistency. I think he will be a right back, at the moment he's doing well."

 

[Astafjevs]

"Compactness". I'm tired of hearing this word.

 

[Edi]

www.milannews.it

leo demands reinforcements in January. So he should. he better fucken get these guys now.

Even if we get someone in January it's gonna be too late. The way things are going, we are gonna be lucky if we get a UEFA cup place next year

 

[Az.]

@ Leo :

 

[Kuzimoto]

Oct 4, 2009 4:53:24 PM

Milan Coach Leonardo Unable To Comment On Draw With Atalanta Due To Illness
The Rossoneri tactician was struggling to speak following the game...

With his future still very much up in the air following another disappointing result for the Rossoneri, Milan coach Leonardo was forced to withdraw from the post-match interview due to a strong cold that prohibited him from speaking.

“I can’t speak. I’m really sorry,” Leonardo declared to SkySport.

“I have tried but I can’t physically talk and if I do one interview I will forced to do the rounds with all the news networks. Once again I’m sorry,” he concluded.

As the Milan faithful wait anxiously to discover the fate of their Brazilian coach, it seems that the former Rossoneri player will have to recover first before he can comment on his near future.

Stefano Federici, Goal.com



that's it,we're officially deep in da shit.

 

[Charbel]

Well, he obviously loves Milan a lot.