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Maldini&Inzaghi said:
I think its time to get a keeper and also some real strikers up there. Gila again is ruining his own career but not producing with Milan. I guess Parma could take him back and he can go back to his old ways. But for Milan I hate to say it he just blows man. I used to adore this guy but he kills me anymore. I have not lost all hope but he has alot of ground to recover.

Gila wasn't bad. He never got a more than a couple opportunities/descent crosses to work with so IMO he can't really be judged. He got a touch that went right to the keeper and I think he got a touch on a suspect pass by Janks, but it went wide. Today his performance was a result of what he received, Pippo did nothing either for the same reason.

Not their fault!!!
 

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crazy4milan said:
Agree on the defensive aspect (everyone gets a point in that one for me, as we did great putting some preassure on them when they got the ball on their half for most of the game). And please do work on your crosses. It's a necessity when we have one lonely guy (sometimes 2 as Ambro sometimes gets there) to give good crosses, not send them to no man's land (specially Oddo, Janku has a little more sense in that).

We could have beat them for a bigger scoreline. But who cares, we did our duty. Anyways they did have the bus in their box (not a very efficient one) and that's why we didn't really tested their kepper.

I remember telling myself that Seedorf was awful and Kaka was just a bit better, but if both could for just one minute be good at the same time things would work out for us. And so they did. The rest of the midfield did good for me (specially Ambro).

Dida didn't look confident from the start of the game. I don't know why, but he just didn't. And he confirmed that in the end of the game to a point that -I've never seen this in a long time in Milan- Rino had to call him on what that hell he was doing.

Gila is this enigma for me. He ran his ass off today, fought for the ball, and was isolated by his teamates for most of the minutes he played (specially with those crosses) so I can understand part of his inactivity. But the moment were he could have sealed the deal (Ambro's cross) he just seemed like lost. His self confidence is the thing that is killing him and I don't if they are working on it in the staff or what, but it's too obvious. Pippo didn't do much (didn't do anything actually, except for getting a handball), but you can see the determination he has as soon as he comes in. He knows he is the man.

Both Gila + Pippo share similar characteristics, but it's really weird to see how our game changes when one of the is in and the other is in the bench. With Gila we have the possession most the time, and we have better "ball protection", and nice quick passes in the small area to open spaces so that someone else can score (+ we guarantee ourselves a really good long championship striker) but we lack that constant threat-he can be a threat, just not all the time-. With Pippo we have the constant threat, the great movements inside the area that can change the game in a minute, and the needed selfishness of a #9 (+ we have an awesome Cup striker), but we start to give out more spaces (like today) and have less ball possession (not that he can't cover the ball, but he rarely does it). The mix of both + some dribbles + tricks + better ball control outside the box, and we have Sheva (and that's why both complented greatly with Sheva around).

Now that is a comment ;)
 

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Its good that we won but us scoring 1 late goal vs such weak team is just amazing.
Am starting 2 get use of this shity Milan specially when A. is in charge.
Also Gila performing bad is also starting 2 b the usual.
What really bother me is our flank's crosses specially Oddo's.
I mean come on , how hard is it 2 make a cross when u get 6-7 chances 2 do so ?
I just hope that this isn’t all we have coz a team like Boca will surely eat us alive.
 

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crazy4milan said:
Dida didn't look confident from the start of the game. I don't know why, but he just didn't.
I noticed that too. I wanted to yell after the botched corner, but not at 3 in the morning. He looked tired at times when the cameras picked him up, likely due to the fact he was coming off a stomach virus and a back problem and didn't train much last week. This was his first substandard affair in quite some time; hopefully he'll be fully recovered for Boca.

I was disappointed Seedorf didn't do his adorable "running in circles" goal celebration. Oh well, hopefully on Sunday.

Galliani on acmilan.com: "Once again we saw the best player in the world: Kaka. He was stoic, because he played for long stretches of the game with a broken nail with blood coming out. He was in pain, but his hand was bandaged in one way and he held till the end." Ouch. :eek:
 

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Wild said:
Its good that we won but us scoring 1 late goal vs such weak team is just amazing.
Am starting 2 get use of this shity Milan specially when A. is in charge.
Also Gila performing bad is also starting 2 b the usual.
What really bother me is our flank's crosses specially Oddo's.
I mean come on , how hard is it 2 make a cross when u get 6-7 chances 2 do so ?
I just hope that this isn’t all we have coz a team like Boca will surely eat us alive.
Why do you always feel the need to shit on Carlo :conf: Aside from Oddo and Janku (keep in mind that Serginho is injured) who else do we have :conf: We have No good crossers who play in wide positions....i.e. Pirlo, Kaka and Seedorf could all hit a mean cross but they are hardly ever in position to do so....before you jump up and down and blame Ancelotti for this consire that their hands are already full in the MID field ( read "in the middle of the pitch" :o ) Carlo asked for a wide player in Ribery but this would have kinda dried up Berlu's ronaldinho wet dream.

So we have TWO options....continue to boss the midfield as we have always been doing and suffer a bit on the flanks offensively .....or use Kaka/ Pirlo Seedorf on the wing and get our already porus defence exposed down the middle even more centrally.....If you asked me I'd take option 1 ;)
 

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Wild said:
Its good that we won but us scoring 1 late goal vs such weak team is just amazing.
Am starting 2 get use of this shity Milan specially when A. is in charge.
Also Gila performing bad is also starting 2 b the usual.
What really bother me is our flank's crosses specially Oddo's.
I mean come on , how hard is it 2 make a cross when u get 6-7 chances 2 do so ?
I just hope that this isn’t all we have coz a team like Boca will surely eat us alive.

well, boca won 1-0 against a crappier team and one not from japan either. boca didn't even really dominate their match, for some decent stretches they were being outplayed by etoille, and their possession and other statistics weren't that good. so, it's not like you can say much more for them based on their last game. at least milan bossed this game from start to finish, just had trouble breaking them down.
 

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jpick said:
well, boca won 1-0 against a crappier team and one not from japan either. boca didn't even really dominate their match, for some decent stretches they were being outplayed by etoille, and their possession and other statistics weren't that good. so, it's not like you can say much more for them based on their last game. at least milan bossed this game from start to finish, just had trouble breaking them down.
They did not want to give it all, maybe? Being the underdogs is always better, less pressure (This is what Liverpool tried to do [being underdogs] before the 2007 CsL Final, although they were rated higher than us - Yup, bullshit). Don't underestimate Boca Juniors, they are more united than us somehow, and more motivated.
 

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Dida played well.
Ok... he made one slip there, where Gattuso screamed him but nothing more.
He did not concede a goal + made a great save from Washington's shoot.
 

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kevin_dk said:
They did not want to give it all, maybe? Being the underdogs is always better, less pressure (This is what Liverpool tried to do [being underdogs] before the 2007 CsL Final, although they were rated higher than us - Yup, bullshit). Don't underestimate Boca Juniors, they are more united than us somehow, and more motivated.

oh no doubt, we could very well lose, but that wasn't my point. he talked like boca would wipe the floor with us if we played like today, well maybe, but then again if boca played like they did versus etoille we would wipe the floor with them, and they ain't coming off the best form either domestically, and vargas, who was one of their best players last match, imo, is suspended, so they got their own problems. I would never underestimate them, never, especially given the problems we have had domestically recently and our history of late n the competition.
 

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Wild said:
Its good that we won but us scoring 1 late goal vs such weak team is just amazing.
Am starting 2 get use of this shity Milan specially when A. is in charge.
Also Gila performing bad is also starting 2 b the usual.
What really bother me is our flank's crosses specially Oddo's.
I mean come on , how hard is it 2 make a cross when u get 6-7 chances 2 do so ?
I just hope that this isn’t all we have coz a team like Boca will surely eat us alive.

The formation and was a success, just look at all the opportunites that were created, Seedorf & others just didn't score.
Ancelotti took the (proverbial) horse to the water but he can't make it drink.
Ancelotti isn't the one missing clear scoring opportunities, the score could have been should have been 4 -0.

You got some serious mis-directed hate towards Ancelotti.

Try directing the hate towards some one who deserves it....like INTER...and stop pissing on our coach after we win!!!
 

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dimidimidimi said:
Yes thanks for the highlights, it's really nice of you to come and post highlights so soon, for those of us who can't watch the game. Don't mind the psychopath dida-groupie that swore at you before. The rest of us really appreciate what you do.

thank you very much...

i didn't mind what they said, as i know im helping a lot of people with these videos, after all im providing videos if you like it see it, otherwise leave it
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ReMad said:
thank you very much...

i didn't mind what they said, as i know im helping a lot of people with these videos, after all im providing videos if you like it see it, otherwise leave it
:D

You are JuBe fan. That sucks, and you know that. ;)
 

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Highlights
http://www.mediafire.com/?1p7y7czjyqz

And..


all download links

opening
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rlz9zh

line up
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goal
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2hamka

1st half
'12 milan fk pirlo and chance
http://www.sendspace.com/file/324meu

'23 milan seedorf chance
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'26 milan gilardino chance
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'39 milan gilardino chance
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'40 urawa reds suzuki chance
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2nd half
'47 milan chance
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'50 milan seedorf chance
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'54 urawa reds abe chance
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'55 milan seedorf chance
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'57 milan gilardino chance
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'66 urawa reds washington chance
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'76 urawa reds yamada chance and ck chance
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'83 milan fk pirlo
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'84 milan pirlo chance
http://www.sendspace.com/file/xemp9d

'86 milan seedorf chance
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ydfbav

Kaka's post-match interview (in italian)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/xc4c6n

:)
 

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ReMad said:
thank you very much...

i didn't mind what they said, as i know im helping a lot of people with these videos, after all im providing videos if you like it see it, otherwise leave it
:D

Remad i always thought you were a bot, how do you post videos on so many forums simutaneously?
 

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Turns out that our match was the first one in which the new "intelligent ball" was used. Milan also played the first ever game in which the referees wore the new headsets (CL, vs. Bayern in '06).
 

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Besfort said:
Dida played well.
Ok... he made one slip there, where Gattuso screamed him but nothing more.
He did not concede a goal + made a great save from Washington's shoot.
he made more than 1 slip... just because Kaladze saved him doesn't mean it didn't happen...

playin' at this level... a lack of concentration late in the game is a no-no... have you forgotten Bayern last season? we were leadin' 2-0... remember what happened? van Buyten... ring a bell?
 

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Agreed crazy4milan ... Ambro certainly did play well. He had that assist to Gila and another to Clarence which he also missed. Don't even bother counting the number of balls he won - much more than Gattuso IMO. Only let down perhaps was the header he missed off Pirlo's corner ... but after seeing him play, one can certainly understand why Gourcuff's been benched more than often.

I noticed, a few times, Clarence playing more upfront than Kaka' ... sometimes playing as a second striker, with Kaka' slotting behind him and Gila/Pippo or going to wide areas. Would be interesting to see how this new role suits Clarence since he's been moving well off the ball, and should he find more accuracy in his shots, probably would make a good striker ;) :D

Thing with Dida ... when in form, he can make the best of saves. No doubt about it. But he's been making amateur errors often which isn't acceptable at his level. He does the hard bit alright, but the easy stuff eludes him. Making the defense unsure, which is never a good thing.
 

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Dida also kept a clean sheet, STFU. Huge save on Washington.
 

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madtherchot said:
Thing with Dida ... when in form, he can make the best of saves. No doubt about it. But he's been making amateur errors often which isn't acceptable at his level. He does the hard bit alright, but the easy stuff eludes him. Making the defense unsure, which is never a good thing.
try tellin' that to the delusional folks...
 

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Well, in his defense, he did rise to the occasion in Athens ... he does have good games, but yeah, he has to be more consistent. Add the fact that he isn't getting any younger, and we really should think of replacing him or at least getting a better understudy than Kalac :rolleyes:
 

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zZ[-_-]Zz said:
try tellin' that to the delusional folks...
What's delusional is people continuing to insist that he's having a lousy season based on only a few matches, but are mum when he's on form. Never mind that last night he was playing hurt for about the third time this season, and we still kept a clean sheet and won the game. His mistakes were benign and did not impact the match in any way, yet they were the only thing many could think about after the final whistle.
 

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Beemer said:
What's delusional is people continuing to insist that he's having a lousy season based on only a few matches, but are mum when he's on form. Never mind that last night he was playing hurt for about the third time this season, and we still kept a clean sheet and won the game. His mistakes were benign and did not impact the match in any way, yet they were the only thing many could think about after the final whistle.
after a match... don't you normally look to see where mistakes were made so that you can retify them?

Dida has made the same repeated mistakes... so clearly either he is not puttin' in effort to avoid repeatin' them or he is simply past it... either way... his time to go has come... delayin' it is repeatin' our own past mistakes like extendin' some of the useless players' contract...
 

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Well, we've already just extended Dida's, and he's adequate for now. So a younger promising understudy, who would compete + eventually dethrone Dida from the number 1 jersey, seems a better solution. There are quite a few young Germans impressing in the Bundesliga, though I don't know of younger Italians.

On his performances, I think its the nerves getting to him during setpieces and some easier saves, because when it comes to phenomenal saves, he still provides them. Either that or he has concentration lapses. Since, you have to admit ... you'd have to think hard and long to remember the last time Cech or Buffon committed howlers like Dida does relatively oftenly.
 

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Now call me delusional but...

This

and this

and this

and this

and this

and this

and this

Is what makes us go "Gattuso" on him like this . He's not a world-class goalkeeper. He never was one. He just had a couple of good seasons some years ago. He is only good at catching some difficult shots where he has to jump and extend himself horizontally on the air. He's crap with long balls and he has fingers that could not hold a half-full (or half-empty if you prefer) glass of water across the room without making the carpet look like a cat peed on it.

Edit: Sorry I forgot another one:

This one

And if you check the highlights, at 2:15 video time, you'll see that we'd be far better off using nesta as a goalkeeper than Didaster.
 
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Nesta is a GREAT Keeper in fifa 08 :eek: I won on penalties with him in goal last night after Dida got sent off :D

Back to topic, I think it's really unfair to knock Dida to the ground this way. It is clear that it's more than just his performances that piss his haters off. The guy got a clean sheet. Here's a novel thought...how about blasting him AFTER he concedes a goal :head:
 

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drucurl said:
Nesta is a GREAT Keeper in fifa 08 :eek: I won on penalties with him in goal last night after Dida got sent off :D

Back to topic, I think it's really unfair to knock Dida to the ground this way. It is clear that it's more than just his performances that piss his haters off. The guy got a clean sheet. Here's a novel thought...how about blasting him AFTER he concedes a goal :head:

He got a clean sheet with Urawa Red Diamonds who had like 1 chance in the whole game, not much of a feat if you ask me. The reason for bringing up the dida topic once again, is his fight with Gattuso in the game. When there are players from the same team fighting in a game, you know that something is wrong. I can understand Gattuso's anger. When you run and run and run your shoes off so that you don't concede a goal it's irritating when you do because your keeper can't hold a ball within his hands.

P.S. (Off topic) Fifa sucks, how about you try Pro Evolution Soccer to see what a real football sim plays like :D
 

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Gattuso should STFU because half the goals Dida concedes is down to a misplaced pass or fuck up from him.
 

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San Paolo said:
Gattuso should STFU because half the goals Dida concedes is down to a misplaced pass or fuck up from him.
What's the with the STFU? You've been using lots of it lately. New catchphrase?
 

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Not new. Working it in. Seems to be working. Good to see you getting involved gaizka22
 

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