Andrea Pirlo Thread

[derpu]

xavi and pirlo are two different types of playmakers. unfair to compare them imo.

you don't see xavi making those pinpoint long balls to forwards but then again, you don't see pirlo using tiki-taka short passes either.

Earl Hebner

 

[Casualista]

similar careers? Not trophy cabinet wise thats for sure. Not at individual level and not at team level. Maybe how the manner in which they peaked yeah but thats about it.

 

[Sage]

donkey face is shit

 

[Casualista]

xavi and pirlo are two different types of playmakers. unfair to compare them imo.

you don't see xavi making those pinpoint long balls to forwards but then again, you don't see pirlo using tiki-taka short passes either.

u obviously havent seen xavi pick out dani alves and adriano with his pin point perfect passes and his lobs to messi. in fact i bet xavi's long ball stats are more accurate than pirlo if someone can bring it up.

 

[jammin]

i meant the super long, direct cannons that pirlo used to hurl forward to pippo. xavi's lobs are shorter and slower because he operates further upfield.

well, whatever, both pirlo and xavi are pricks to me. muntari > both of them.

scholes and pirlo are a much better comparison.

speaking of amazing long passes, anybody see an absolutely beautiful one by Tom Huddlestone (in a European match iirc)? was on some 'best passes compilation' i watched.

 

[Sage]

scholes absolutely shits on horse face, doesn't need bodyguards and 10 dogs to play well.

 

[jammin]

but he's ginger. they have no souls.

problem with pirlo is that he is severely limited, mostly in the physical department. if he had more muscle and could run around, he'll be balon'dor.

 

[Casualista]

scholes cant defend for jack but at least he kills like flamini. Isnt scared to put his foot in. Isnt feeling demotivated or merc-ing his way to Manchester city/liverpool/chelsea.

Legend.

 

[Ashish]

Seedorf > pirlo

 

[Nestafan]

Earl Hebner

The wrestling official?

 

[Nestafan]

I miss Pirlo with Milan.

 

[Ashish]

I don't

 

[Nestafan]

Seedorf > pirlo

Both in their prime- its a tough one.

 

[nuttela]

Seedorf IS Optimus Prime

 

[Wild]

when he could have easily chosen Chelsea, Man utd/City, Bayern, Tottenham, so to not help out the biggest rival to dethrone Milan.

What the fuck !!!!!!
None of those teams wanted him.
It was between Milan & Juve man.
All the talk about how good the world think he is is rubbish & nothing but gossip.
I bet you any semi good , not good or world class , just semi good free player will have @ least 4-5 top teams battling for him.
Pirlo had none but Juve & Milan.
To make my point clear imagine Xavi being free next summer , would you guys think it will be a battle between Barca & lets say Atletico Madrid or it will turn into a war with ManU , Chelsea , ManCitu , Milan , Inter & insert any team who doesnt mind a free good/world class player.
How Pirlo if he is that good didnt have such battle ?
Lets forget about Xavi who is twice the player Pirlo is.
Lets talk about Alonso & imagine he is free next summer.
Fuck it , lets say Cambiasso.
And VanB is about 4 years older so I will wait four years to see how will the sterile midget perform before I compare both.
Obviously when VanB was as old as Pirlo is now the guy was world class.
I like people comparing Pirlo with Xavi when the latter is better in every position than any player who play that position.
I will take Xavi over any CM , DM or even AM in the world.
While if I needed a player with great vision & a setting tempo player then I might consider Pirlo if I can afford his weaknesses which are a lot.
Xavi assist more , score more , defend more & the best quality is like he care more.

btw, Pirlo at his best was rather superior to Xavi. I can only sympathize with those who missed out on those happy Milan moments.

I just cant believe how can you even consider that.
Other than first couple of season Pirlo was never consistent same as most of the other Milan players including the mighty Kaka , Seedorf & many others.
Our guys used to perform good/great for like 7-8 important games , mostly in CL , & the rest were like average more or less & Pirlo was never , NEVER our best midfielder or even second best.
There was always two or three of Gatu , Seedorf , Kaka & sometime Ambro ahead of him while Xavi is better than fucking Messi.
Again I dare you naming one season where Pirlo was our best player or even second best.
Even in world cup it was also a handful of games only where Pirlo did great & even then Gatu was better.
Thats about it.
Xavi on the other hand is indisputably the best midfielder since how long now ? 6 years ?
Six years of great performances in the league , in CL & with Spain.
Thats like 50+ games / season.
How much assist did he pick just last season ? probably more than Pirlo's entire career.
Xavi's high is way more high & his low is not as low as Pirlo's & he is much more consistent & versatile (he won the wc playing as an AM)

 

[Ashish]

Both in their prime- its a tough one.

lol i am talking about today .. prime .. 4 cls > 2 cls no question

nothing in wc with a fair ref

 

[MonsterKane]

What the fuck !!!!!!
None of those teams wanted him.

And VanB is about 4 years older so I will wait four years to see how will the sterile midget perform before I compare both.
Obviously when VanB was as old as Pirlo is now the guy was world class.

Whereas Van Bommel could've easily gone to Manchester City before his contract extension with Milan and earn a lot more money, but this man simply wanted to play for the third foreign club he loved as a kid. That's what I call a real man, just like Fernando Redondo.

 

[Madridista]

From a purely aesthetic point of view, Pirlo is better than Xavi. Pirlo is one of the most smooth and graceful midfielders I've ever seen, this has fooled many people into overrating his actual effectiveness. And among these people, there are many at the top European clubs; I think that Chelsea, Bayern and Atletico Madrid were at some point interested in Pirlo, but his reputation of the ultimate beautiful midfielder (footballing style, not hair lol) also commanded a heavy wages demand from him that might have been a problem.

And with Pirlo being the merc that he is, he was not going to accept lower wages for the sake of his love for Milan, because such love didn't exist in the first place. He went to the highest bidder, completely disregarding that its Milan's biggest rival.

 

[MonsterKane]

Bayern never wanted Pirlo. Why should they go for Pirlo at all? They have Bastian, Luiz Gustavo, Kroos and Tymoshchuk...

 

[Sage]

Bayern never wanted Pirlo. Why should they go for Pirlo at all? They have Bastian, Luiz Gustavo, Kroos and Tymoshchuk...

i think there was a report on them wanting montolivo, but it was probably bs.

 

[derpu]

The wrestling official?

Haha yes

 

[Redman10]

as i said before, this thread is the most entertaining and informative thread

Both sides present their arguments thoroughly

This Thread

 

[Dark Knight]

btw, Pirlo at his best was rather superior to Xavi..

 

[Hondayum]

I think this thread needs to be temporarily closed.

 

[RollingPapers]

BIG ASS EARS ******

 

[Casualista]

I think this thread needs to be permanently closed. Something that should have happened the moment he left instead of trivial perma bans to drucurl like as if it would solve anything.

 

[Senatore_M84]

From a purely aesthetic point of view, Pirlo is better than Xavi. Pirlo is one of the most smooth and graceful midfielders I've ever seen, this has fooled many people into overrating his actual effectiveness. And among these people, there are many at the top European clubs; I think that Chelsea, Bayern and Atletico Madrid were at some point interested in Pirlo, but his reputation of the ultimate beautiful midfielder (footballing style, not hair lol) also commanded a heavy wages demand from him that might have been a problem.

And with Pirlo being the merc that he is, he was not going to accept lower wages for the sake of his love for Milan, because such love didn't exist in the first place. He went to the highest bidder, completely disregarding that its Milan's biggest rival.

What i don't get is why those who readily bashed management for 'screwing leo', 'wasting kaka' can't say same for pirlo.

Denying his talent is laughable.

Yes certain systems suit him more, but he was wasted from basically 2007 on with static teams.


There are so few players with the ability to conduct a team the way a guy like xavi, pirlo, scholes do. IMO if you are luckily enough to have one, utilize them properly ffs.

Hindsight is always 20/20, but all the flaws of the 07-10 milan teams, were unrelated to pirlo. It's another example of management wasting an asset (pirlo) buy not constructing a proper team time and time again. Ex. Signing Ronaldinho, when Etoo would have worked MUCH better w/ kaka and pirlo (imagine etoo with kaka behind him, pirlo in midfield)


End of the day, another wasted talent in his prime years, despite fact he was still performing stellar with national team who was mobile.

 

[SpartanMilan]

What i don't get is why those who readily bashed management for 'screwing leo', 'wasting kaka' can't say same for pirlo.

Denying his talent is laughable.

Yes certain systems suit him more, but he was wasted from basically 2007 on with static teams.


There are so few players with the ability to conduct a team the way a guy like xavi, pirlo, scholes do. IMO if you are luckily enough to have one, utilize them properly ffs.

Hindsight is always 20/20, but all the flaws of the 07-10 milan teams, were unrelated to pirlo. It's another example of management wasting an asset (pirlo) buy not constructing a proper team time and time again. Ex. Signing Ronaldinho, when Etoo would have worked MUCH better w/ kaka and pirlo (imagine etoo with kaka behind him, pirlo in midfield)


End of the day, another wasted talent in his prime years, despite fact he was still performing stellar with national team who was mobile.

exactly

 

[sushanmilano]

What i don't get is why those who readily bashed management for 'screwing leo', 'wasting kaka' can't say same for pirlo.

Denying his talent is laughable.

Yes certain systems suit him more, but he was wasted from basically 2007 on with static teams.


There are so few players with the ability to conduct a team the way a guy like xavi, pirlo, scholes do. IMO if you are luckily enough to have one, utilize them properly ffs.

Hindsight is always 20/20, but all the flaws of the 07-10 milan teams, were unrelated to pirlo. It's another example of management wasting an asset (pirlo) buy not constructing a proper team time and time again. Ex. Signing Ronaldinho, when Etoo would have worked MUCH better w/ kaka and pirlo (imagine etoo with kaka behind him, pirlo in midfield)


End of the day, another wasted talent in his prime years, despite fact he was still performing stellar with national team who was mobile.

EOD

Like I said, Sid and the other Van bommel apologists are blaming a crappy squad for van bommel not playing well yet use a different logic for pirlo. We had a crappy team back then and we have a crappy team right now . The only difference in the improvement in performance is due to zlatan. Otherwise the problems are the same. Still waiting for a new project.

 

[necromancer]

Scholes is a very good player, but one clear level below Pirlo and Xavi in creativity. More in the Xabi Alonso region, I'd say. No matter what Zidane might have said about him, in some drink-fuelled crazy moment.