Clarence Seedorf Thread

[Goldfinger68]

Its time for it, but we shouldnt forget what a legend this is. He maybe didnt play so well lately, but we should not talk shit about him.

Thank you man, alot of respect, you are the man.

We shouldnt be happy or sad, we should celebrate all the legends here ending it now with milan.

 

[nuttela]

if seedorf leaves ill be sad. he did drag it a fair bit. but had he left even at the end of last season we all woulda felt like shit.

but we wont forget him. we can't. he is one of the senators. the a-team.

 

[melanman]

Seedorf is getting hate in this thread cause simply he didn't give two shits for multiple season only to show up when he feels like it and now some are returning the favor of not giving a shit about him. It has nothing to do with the fact that he is non Italian.

Disagree he was there when called upon for countless seasons and was instrumental in every transfermation of the team from one coach/tactic to the other. Made mistakes like the others in his class, but still had good performances.



Especially after the arrival of dinho.
Seeedorf= Milan link up play.


Everyone in the world thinks said dorf is a class footballer/individual

Accept his own club fans


He has been a great servent of Milan(team/brand)
and to say anything else about the matter.......is classlessness in its very nature.

 

[Casualista]

damn and here i thought berlu controlled the media.

Cant believe people are trying to lie about his contributions in 2012 or how much he cared about milan.

 

[Redman10]

Everyone in the world thinks said dorf is a class footballer/individual

Accept his own club fans

It can't be without reason though. No one else got booed almost every home game like Seedorf did. Clearly, there is something your doing wrong on the field when fans boo as consistently as they did and I don't think it racial cause there are other black players on the team throughout the years but only Seedorf suffers the wrath of the fans.

 

[Senatore_M84]

Seedorf is getting hate in this thread cause simply he didn't give two shits for multiple season only to show up when he feels like it and now some are returning the favor of not giving a shit about him. It has nothing to do with the fact that he is non Italian.

myth.

He AND pirlo are model professionals. You have zero examples to prove otherwise. Not a single coach has EVER said opposite, not a single teammate has ever criticized eithers commitnment. Compare that to say.. dinho, ronaldo, vieir, and others.


People don't get style of play. Yes Seedorf, has an ability to slow up play and do other things which are aestetically frustrating.

Blame the coaches who didn't bench him for doing such.

He's always been a player to slow down team, which at times (like UCL When it's more tactical) is a huge edge, because you need to think. But sometimes in league when we just need straight pace/power, he kills a counter.

 

[jammin]

myth.

He AND pirlo are model professionals. You have zero examples to prove otherwise. Not a single coach has EVER said opposite, not a single teammate has ever criticized eithers commitnment. Compare that to say.. dinho, ronaldo, vieir, and others.


People don't get style of play. Yes Seedorf, has an ability to slow up play and do other things which are aestetically frustrating.

Blame the coaches who didn't bench him for doing such.

He's always been a player to slow down team, which at times (like UCL When it's more tactical) is a huge edge, because you need to think. But sometimes
in league when we just need straight pace/power, he kills a counter.

post.

 

[Casualista]

the world doesnt have to watch milan week in week out every minute. they just watch highlight reels. They are ignorant.Unfortunately ppl who watch him every week know he is a prick of the highest order and the milan logo on his shirt has no value attatched.

Oh btw. A coach did bench him. Had a fight with the coach. And if his titanic personality in dressing room is supposed to be true then he probably destabilized the dressing room during d-days of our scudetto run. Cried like a little bitch to the media.
All myths of professionalism came crashing down.

Grande.

 

[Senatore_M84]

edit- i should say only criticisms of seedorf have been related to personality and arguing w/ coaches. Not laziness or commitment.

It's been more like dutch national team where he has different ideas and speaks his mind.

Senators don't stay quiet in the chambers . Eitherway that's a different issue to 'he'z lazy doesn't try etc.'

Oh btw. A coach did bench him. Cried like a little bitch to the media. All myths of professionalism came crashing down.

good timing, i just thought of that as i re-read.

You and i both know, it's a different issue though. He's a committed pro who wants to win, who sometimes gets in his own way.

That's much different than vieri showing up hungover/fat and not training.

Surely you see that

 

[Casualista]

Really? You dont call it unprofessionalism he fights with the coach? destabilizes the dressing room? bitches to media? Especially during the most crucial moment of our scudetto run?

Massively unprofessional and unproductive to milan cause. Shows huge selfishness. No other senatore has come out with such criticism eventho they have been benched by allegri. Not inzaghi, not pirlo and not dinho. Maybe inzaghi to a certain extent but no one else has bitched about being benched.

 

[KujaIX]

Another sad day.

The disrespect for Seedorf here is huge. Disgusting.

 

[Senatore_M84]

Really? You dont call it unprofessionalism he fights with the coach? destabilizes the dressing room? bitches to media? Especially during the most crucial moment of our scudetto run?

Massively unprofessional and unproductive to milan cause. Shows huge selfishness. No other senatore has come out with such criticism eventho they have been benched by allegri. Not inzaghi, not pirlo and not dinho.

Really? Pippo has constantly complained about not playing and saying he still can score.

You're just trying to hate. Just like pippo... completely different than being out of shape

 

[Dottore Joey]

Goodbye Seedorf.

Thank you, and good luck in the future.

 

[Congo Powers]

Another sad day.

The disrespect for Seedorf here is huge. Disgusting.

+1

lots of disrespectful people here..ignorant...uncultured. unfortunately, nothing new.

 

[Casualista]

What about Pirlo, Dinho, Aquilani and a host of others who have been benched by allegri and they havent spoken a word against him.

Seedorf has been playing bullshit football for ages so what case did he have questioning allegri's decision? Part of the problem, never the solution. Not even in the backroom.

Unprofessional.

 

[necromancer]

Really? You dont call it unprofessionalism he fights with the coach? destabilizes the dressing room? bitches to media? Especially during the most crucial moment of our scudetto run?

Massively unprofessional and unproductive to milan cause. Shows huge selfishness. No other senatore has come out with such criticism eventho they have been benched by allegri. Not inzaghi, not pirlo and not dinho. Maybe inzaghi to a certain extent but no one else has bitched about being benched.

Haha, Ronaldinho and Senatore? No way.

 

[Casualista]

Haha, Ronaldinho and Senatore? No way.

dont knit pick. u know the point i made.

 

[Sage]

damn and here i thought berlu controlled the media.

Cant believe people are trying to lie about his contributions in 2012 or how much he cared about milan.

the world doesnt have to watch milan week in week out every minute. they just watch highlight reels. They are ignorant.Unfortunately ppl who watch him every week know he is a prick of the highest order and the milan logo on his shirt has no value attatched.

Oh btw. A coach did bench him. Had a fight with the coach. And if his titanic personality in dressing room is supposed to be true then he probably destabilized the dressing room during d-days of our scudetto run. Cried like a little bitch to the media.
All myths of professionalism came crashing down.

Grande.

What about Pirlo, Dinho, Aquilani and a host of others who have been benched by allegri and they havent spoken a word against him.

Seedorf has been playing bullshit football for ages so what case did he have questioning allegri's decision? Part of the problem, never the solution. Not even in the backroom.

Unprofessional.

being a pro doesn't simply mean showing up to training on time, his performances on the pitch are that of an amateur.

 

[Casualista]

the backroom face of stability myth is also getting shattered.

I would actually put gattuso's conduct this year to perfection. He was the backroom face of stability. Always on the sidelines cheering. Regardless whether he played or not. Support and humility was shown. Seedorf the opposite.

 

[Fiero]

Is the glorious day finally upon us?

 

[peep]

Seedorf demanding massive wages to even move to Brazil is proof enough of this guys lack of professionalism. nearing 40, but still think he can command the world. Only thing he can command is his underwear to get lodged in his massive buttcheeks.

 

[Dravidian]

Funny how the same set of people here ruin the Seedorf (& Pirlo) thread and support Flamini who has nothing but bitched for the majority of the 4 years that he has stayed.

 

[Sage]

ancelotti was a choker, but he sure had a united team.

the locker room is a mess with allegri, so many reports of fall outs.

rino certainly deserves praise, Im not sure whether I want him to stay or leave, I'd want him to stay because he still has a year left in him to play well and he can be an in and out first teamer, but I also want him to leave to end the senatore era.

 

[jammin]

there are some men (Paolo, Sandro, maybe Rino) who will put the club above their own personal success. Clarence, Pippo (and Pirlo) would not.

not a jab at these legends, every man has a right to look out for his own interests and it's simply illogical to think otherwise, but simply pointing out a simple difference that speaks volumes about their actions.

 

[jammin]

Funny how the same set of people here ruin the Seedorf (& Pirlo) thread and support Flamini who has nothing but bitched for the majority of the 4 years that he has stayed.

I don't think anyone truly supports Flamoney.

 

[Ashish]

I don't think anyone truly supports Flamoney.

 

[USC]

While none of us ACTUALLY know what has happened and we are all making our own judgments on what happened with Seedorf, there is a line and there are some crossing it.

I will paraphrase and modify a line from the film Troy to discuss Seedorf. Hector (Rino, Ambrosini, Nesta, etc) fight for their country; Achilles (Seedorf) fights only for himself.

Above all, I believe that Seedorf played for himself and only had his best interests in mind. Is there anything wrong with that? Debatable, but highly subjective.

I'm glad to see Seedorf go as I don't believe that he has been of value to this club for a very long time. He has a future in football as he's a pretty bright guy, but I hope that future is with another club. His past contributions have been darkened by his recent contributions, which is partially sad, partially predictable.

Remember - you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

 

[Master Smurf]

the backroom face of stability myth is also getting shattered.

I would actually put gattuso's conduct this year to perfection. He was the backroom face of stability. Always on the sidelines cheering. Regardless whether he played or not. Support and humility was shown. Seedorf the opposite.

This I will definitely agree with.

Seedorf (this last incarnation of him) served a purpose because Milan refused to move on but most of his play has been extremely subpar and his reactions were horrible. If others did that they would get slammed. Just look at video of him strolling around and then other matches when he actually cares. What do you call that???

He needs to be moved on like 'Dinho and Pirlo (his ambition here was gone) and that is simple.

I thank him for all he has done (even this season at the times we needed him and he actually did play well)

 

[jammin]

While none of us ACTUALLY know what has happened and we are all making our own judgments on what happened with Seedorf, there is a line and there are some crossing it.

I will paraphrase and modify a line from the film Troy to discuss Seedorf. Hector (Rino, Ambrosini, Nesta, etc) fight for their country; Achilles (Seedorf) fights only for himself.

Above all, I believe that Seedorf played for himself and only had his best interests in mind. Is there anything wrong with that? Debatable, but highly subjective.

I'm glad to see Seedorf go as I don't believe that he has been of value to this club for a very long time. He has a future in football as he's a pretty bright guy, but I hope that future is with another club. His past contributions have been darkened by his recent contributions, which is partially sad, partially predictable.

Remember - you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

 

[Dravidian]

there are some men (Paolo, Sandro, maybe Rino) will put the club above his own success. Clarence, Pippo (and Pirlo) would not.

not a jab at these legends, every man has a right to look out for his own interests, but simply pointing out a simple difference that speaks volumes about their actions.

Nope. No one puts the club's interest above their own - not even the ones you mentioned. These are professionals, some may however stretch to the extent of not working against the interest of the club as much as possible.

Maldini was netting massive salary & had practically a blemish free career. He was never offered low wages, nor was he benched. Rino obviously doesn't want to feel like a burden but at the same time, has been saying that he doesn't want to sit on the bench. Same with Sandro.

Ambrosini is the only one who can come close to your description as he has I believe said that he wants to stay no matter what & has accepted bench role graciously even after being club captain. But then again, Ambro knows he is no Maldini/Nesta/Seedorf.