Copa America

[sushanmilano]

I just find it hilarious that when Ganso plays bad, leading the tournament in failed passes and completely disappearing, you find hundreds of excuses why he's being playing bad and say that he wasn't that bad, but with Pastore, who played much better than Ganso, you say that he should have done better. Yeah, right. Apparently Pastore should have single-handedly saved Argentina when even Messi--the best payer in the world--couldn't do it. You're being ridiculous, buddy. Ridiculously biased.

Don't even bother replying to me. I'm not interested in your answer.

how? atleast ganso has some assists...pastore nearly botched up an important penalty.,..

 

[Wild]

ROFL Argentinaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

If it wasn't for Pato, Robinho and TS, I'd be rooting for Uruguay to win the whole thing.

True Milan fan.

I'm sorry I would take you seriously if Barcelona players didn't perfect the art of diving and surrounding the ref to ask for cards.

Disgusting club with disgusting players and the most disgusting attitude. On the pitch and off it. On the pitch you have divers like Busquetes, Iniesta, Puyol, Pedro, Alves, and the rest of course. Even Mascherano and Villa instantly became pathetic divers once they joined that shit club. Every team has its divers but with Barcelona it is a philosophy. Player X dives then his team-mates surround the ref to ask for a card. Pathetic. Then after the match if things don't go their way, they blast the ref, the opponents for not playing football the "right" way, and turn on the sprinklers. If they win it's a victory for football and let's hold the Catalan flag. But when Spain win the World Cup suddenly they're Spanish, despite having a revolution(?) a day before the World Cup for the independence of Catalunya.

That's just on the pitch. Because off it, their attitude is not much better either. The "Més que un club" bullshit and the "only club to never wear ads on their shirt" crap. Trying so hard to feel special that once they wore a sponsor on their shirt it was "Unicef" so that it's for a "good reason". All the hypocritical cuntish saga surrounding Cesc led by faithful Catalan cunts Puyol and Xavi, who the fuck gave them the right to speak for Cesc? "He wants to join", "Arsenal shouldn't let him stay against his will" and Alves with his "Arsenal are not on our level and it is normal for him to want to join Barcelona to win everything". I mean seriously what the fuck is that about? Even the mayor joined in the Cescfest by declaring he is "kidnapped". My god I have never seen more pathetic bunch. Has their ever been any obvious case of tapping up? But that's not even the problem, the problem is that they're proud of it all. They even go as far as asking players to hand a transfer request to lower the fee and "ease" the transfer process. Seriously, who the fuck do they think they are?

I could go on for days, so to make a long story short: If you support Barcelona then don't come talking to me about attitude. Ever.

You do know that every fan will find something bad to tell about other teams & he will probably be right.
But they probably wont do so coz its obvious + they dont wanna look stupid/pathetic & thats something you dont mind.
Respect

 

[AlexT]

how? atleast ganso has some assists...pastore nearly botched up an important penalty.,..

The thing is, he didn't botch up the penalty.

And if you watched the game, it should be obvious to you that Pastore played well despite being thrown into the game, which I cannot say about Ganso. And don't start on Ganso's assists, please--they're the only things he did right in this tournament. Overall, he's been playing bad. Being the worst passer of the tournament says a lot.

I'm not in the mood to discuss Ganso, though. I just mentioned him to point out Australiano1980's ridiculous bias.

 

[MilanMB]

I want this game to be played one more time... really enjoyed it.

 

[Sage]

slept in the beg. of the 2nd half and missed the rest of the game, seems like lady luck sided with uruguay.

 

[Barometer]

Messi choking as usual in the NT

 

[jammin]

Messi choking as usual in the NT

How exactly did he choke? He was by far their best player, creating an assist and numerous dangerous dribbles.

 

[Goodfella]

Messi choking as usual in the NT

You didn't watch the game.

 

[Barometer]

Yes I did

 

[acmilan4ever]

Colombia & Argentina crash out - but with Thiago Silva struggling & Lucio unconvincing, Brazil are far from certainties for Copa America
The Selecao's porous defence offers hope for the remaining sides, meaning the tournament is far from over despite the premature exits of two revered rivals

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/ed...bia-argentina-crash-out-but-with-thiago-silva

 

[KujaIX]

Yes, I support Barcelona. What annoyed me about Suárez more than anything was his petulance(?). Suárez goes down easily like a lot of players, but his sarcastic applause to the referee after diving, asking for every player to get a card, waving his arms at his teammates all night, it's bad. Especially when he is playing for his country.

As someone supporting Barcelona, you really can't say that. I've seen the most innocuous foul happen to Messi and yet Valdes will run from his goal to the referee and wave an imaginary card in his face? Get out of here. And the "They play Anti-Football"... well usually the heroes win, it's quite surprising if Anti-Football can prevail over Football how it's meant to be played.

I'm sorry I would take you seriously if Barcelona players didn't perfect the art of diving and surrounding the ref to ask for cards.

Disgusting club with disgusting players and the most disgusting attitude. On the pitch and off it. On the pitch you have divers like Busquetes, Iniesta, Puyol, Pedro, Alves, and the rest of course. Even Mascherano and Villa instantly became pathetic divers once they joined that shit club. Every team has its divers but with Barcelona it is a philosophy. Player X dives then his team-mates surround the ref to ask for a card. Pathetic. Then after the match if things don't go their way, they blast the ref, the opponents for not playing football the "right" way, and turn on the sprinklers. If they win it's a victory for football and let's hold the Catalan flag. But when Spain win the World Cup suddenly they're Spanish, despite having a revolution(?) a day before the World Cup for the independence of Catalunya.

That's just on the pitch. Because off it, their attitude is not much better either. The "Més que un club" bullshit and the "only club to never wear ads on their shirt" crap. Trying so hard to feel special that once they wore a sponsor on their shirt it was "Unicef" so that it's for a "good reason". All the hypocritical cuntish saga surrounding Cesc led by faithful Catalan cunts Puyol and Xavi, who the fuck gave them the right to speak for Cesc? "He wants to join", "Arsenal shouldn't let him stay against his will" and Alves with his "Arsenal are not on our level and it is normal for him to want to join Barcelona to win everything". I mean seriously what the fuck is that about? Even the mayor joined in the Cescfest by declaring he is "kidnapped". My god I have never seen more pathetic bunch. Has their ever been any obvious case of tapping up? But that's not even the problem, the problem is that they're proud of it all. They even go as far as asking players to hand a transfer request to lower the fee and "ease" the transfer process. Seriously, who the fuck do they think they are?

I could go on for days, so to make a long story short: If you support Barcelona then don't come talking to me about attitude. Ever.

Ding ding ding true. Apart from the catalonia stuff, I don't keep up with that and so can't judge, the rest is true.

But lol, where do I start?

Not everyone in Catalunya wants independence. Many people always support Spain. Anyone protesting for independence will not suddenly support the team, no.

més que un club to "feel special". I cringed.

Fàbregas has not told Xavi or Puyol to stay quiet. If he does, then ok. Why hasn't he? And Arsenal can talk when they don't raid Barça for young players. So yeah

Like someone posted here before, "the mayor" This is the mayor of Cesc's town, someone here said it was the "mayor of catalunya" lol. He doesn't speak for Barça. I don't know what the fuck he's saying but it's not Barça's business what he thinks.


Alves quote proven to be false as far as I know.

And no, again wrong. If Rosell says players taking a pay-cut is a sign they want to play for the club, that is one thing. He can't tell Cesc to make a transfer request, he can only make a bid. Sando saying Cesc wants to play for Barça is what the whole world knows already.

Fooling foreigners thing: Yes, we target the simple ones. We are not as successful as the Daily Mail in England yet though

For example, someone on here like manutd an is knowledgeable, not an idiot.

But why is it that so many English fans believe everything they read? This is the case with Barça lately.

Are you English?

Manutdfan(From what I've gathered) is one of those Daily Mail readers...

Yeah Barca are the most popular non-english club in England, and the media wank over them so much. They could lose 8-0 and the media would still go "Barca unlucky as Super-Football doesn't pull through for once", countless times have Barca been said to be the best club ever...

ROFL Argentinaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

True Milan fan.

You do know that every fan will find something bad to tell about other teams & he will probably be right.
But they probably wont do so coz its obvious + they dont wanna look stupid/pathetic & thats something you dont mind.
Respect

It's true though, Wild. Don't you agree? And we all know your Bartha leanings..

 

[MilanMB]

True Milan fan.

What's with the sarcasm, wild?

 

[CurvaSudMilano]

Messi choking as usual in the NT

He was easily their best player and their only dangerous option up front

 

[hdcantona]

slept in the beg. of the 2nd half and missed the rest of the game, seems like lady luck sided with uruguay.

No, composure, team spirit and determination did,

 

[Sonny.Bill.Williams]

Uruguay wankfest

Chile ...always

my mandatory salutation for CHILE! CHILE! CHILE!

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[sushanmilano]

The thing is, he didn't botch up the penalty.

And if you watched the game, it should be obvious to you that Pastore played well despite being thrown into the game, which I cannot say about Ganso. And don't start on Ganso's assists, please--they're the only things he did right in this tournament. Overall, he's been playing bad. Being the worst passer of the tournament says a lot.

I'm not in the mood to discuss Ganso, though. I just mentioned him to point out Australiano1980's ridiculous bias.

am actually pretty neutral on pastore vs ganso . But Pastore is rated 50 million in the market and what does he have to show for that? nothing.. 1or 2 flicks is not enough for milan to shell out 50 million man. Yeah ganso is having issues in retaining possession but atleast he has shown that he CAN step up his game when his team needs and can provide the killer ball for the striker...and ganso we can get for 20 million max.....But pastore has milan face/swag so i think it also makes sense to shell out extra 30 million for him

 

[AlexT]

am actually pretty neutral on pastore vs ganso . But Pastore is rated 50 million in the market and what does he have to show for that? nothing.. 1or 2 flicks is not enough for milan to shell out 50 million man. Yeah ganso is having issues in retaining possession but atleast he has shown that he CAN step up his game when his team needs and can provide the killer ball for the striker...and ganso we can get for 20 million max.....But pastore has milan face/swag so i think it also makes sense to shell out extra 30 million for him

You're very naive if you think that Pastore would be sold for 50M. It's Zamparini's usual bullshit. De Laurentiis says that Hamsik is worth 100M, so what? And Santos are asking for Ganso much more than 20M, if you didn't know.

 

[sushanmilano]

You're very naive if you think that Pastore would be sold for 50M. It's Zamparini's usual bullshit. De Laurentiis says that Hamsik is worth 100M, so what? And Santos are asking for Ganso much more than 20M, if you didn't know.

This is what smaller clubs do to bigger teams in the same league. For milan pastore will come at a ridiculous cost itself. more than 40 million definitely. Thats how it works. Rewind back to a decade back. We had to shell out quite a bit to get nesta and rui costa. Yeah g did a good job with ibra but thats not gonna happen all the time. You in dreamland if u think he can pull of a swoop.
Ganso is different. Santos owns only 45% of his contract. Its difficult for them to hold for us ransom.

 

[AlexT]

This is what smaller clubs do to bigger teams in the same league. For milan pastore will come at a ridiculous cost itself. more than 40 million definitely. Thats how it works. Rewind back to a decade back. We had to shell out quite a bit to get nesta and rui costa. Yeah g did a good job with ibra but thats not gonna happen all the time. You in dreamland if u think he can pull of a swoop.
Ganso is different. Santos owns only 45% of his contract. Its difficult for them to hold for us ransom.

God, do you seriously think that Pastore would be sold for over 40M? The same amount as Fabregas? Don't be naive. And it has nothing to do with Ibra deal, etc. No one simply would pay such an amount of money for Pastore, no matter how great his talent is--he's still no one. Last year Zamparini said that Cavani is worth 30M, but in the end sold for 16M or something.

And it doesn't matter that Santos own only 45% of Ganso's contract. They still have the upper hand -- I think Sven mentioned it somewhere. If they don't want to sell, they won't.

 

[sushanmilano]

God, do you seriously think that Pastore would be sold for over 40M? The same amount as Fabregas? Don't be naive. And it has nothing to do with Ibra deal, etc. No one simply would pay such an amount of money for Pastore, no matter how great his talent is--he's still no one. Last year Zamparini said that Cavani is worth 30M, but in the end sold for 16M or something.

And it doesn't matter that Santos own only 45% of Ganso's contract. They still have the upper hand -- I think Sven mentioned it somewhere. If they don't want to sell, they won't.

Zamparini sold cavani to NAPOLI for 16...u forgot to add that... For milan/juve/inter the rules are different.. clubs gonna swindle as much cash as possible. Hell preziosi was asking 18 million for criscito nobody really likes milan/galliani in italy. Sanchez is being sold for a similar amount and pastore and sanchez have performed at generally same levels. Prices are inflated man, deal with it. With man city interested in every player and 30/40 million being a joke for them i am pretty much ready to believe that cunt zamparini will get what he wants..

 

[milanista1899]

Zamparini owns only 50% of Pastore if i'm not wrong..The other half is owned by the agent or something..

 

[AlexT]

Zamparini sold cavani to NAPOLI for 16...u forgot to add that... For milan/juve/inter the rules are different.. clubs gonna swindle as much cash as possible. Hell preziosi was asking 18 million for criscito nobody really likes milan/galliani in italy. Sanchez is being sold for a similar amount and pastore and sanchez have performed at generally same levels. Prices are inflated man, deal with it. With man city interested in every player and 30/40 million being a joke for them i am pretty much ready to believe that cunt zamparini will get what he wants..

So what if he sold him to Napoli? The only thing Zampa truly cares about is money. In Pastore's case, clubs like Man City are irrelevant, because Pastore doesn't want to go there. The truth is, at the moment in Italy no club but Milan needs a CAM and has the money, and Pastore made it clear that he wants to stay in Italy and wouldn't choose a foreign club over an Italian club. All things considered, Zamparini doesn't have the upper hand at all, because he wants to sell Pastore this summer and can't force Pastore to go aboard if there's an offer from an Italian club. Players aren't slaves.

And if the rumors are true, Sanchez is going to be sold for 26M+bonuses--not 50M at all, as Pozzo was asking. The thing about small Italian clubs is, they tend to ask a lot of money, but then lower the pricetag.

 

[sushanmilano]

So what if he sold him to Napoli? The only thing Zampa truly cares about is money. In Pastore's case, clubs like Man City are irrelevant, because Pastore doesn't want to go there. The truth is, at the moment in Italy no club but Milan needs a CAM and has the money, and Pastore made it clear that he wants to stay in Italy and wouldn't choose a foreign club over an Italian club. All things considered, Zamparini doesn't have the upper hand at all, because he wants to sell Pastore this summer and can't force Pastore to go aboard if there's an offer from an Italian club. Players aren't slaves.

And if the rumors are true, Sanchez is going to be sold for 26M+bonuses--not 50M at all, as Pozzo was asking. The thing about small Italian clubs is, they tend to ask a lot of money, but then lower the pricetag.

WRONG. I think he has attacked milan and the other big clubs atleast a 100 times. His hate for milan is fucking world famous. He recently made a comment that napoli is 1000 times the club milan is and was willing to make a deal for pastore to napoli much more easier. Zamp is a complex character, am sure its not just about money for him. he always wants to prove a point..

 

[AlexT]

WRONG. I think he has attacked milan and the other big clubs atleast a 100 times. His hate for milan is fucking world famous. He recently made a comment that napoli is 1000 times the club milan is and was willing to make a deal for pastore to napoli much more easier. Zamp is a complex character, am sure its not just about money for him. he always wants to prove a point..

Wrong. Just about a week ago, Zamparini said that he would sell Pastore to Milan, and a few days ago, he said that Milan might be the only Italian club that can afford Pastore.

 

[BerluBungaBunga]

Wrong. Just about a week ago, Zamparini said that he would sell Pastore to Milan, and a few days ago, he said that Milan might be the only Italian club that can afford Pastore.

He is an asshole.
He saw that noone is crazy to offer 50 milion for Pastore because for that money you can have Fabgreas and now he is talking nice things bout us.

And before that he was eating shit in almost every interview about us,what an idiotic president.

 

[sushanmilano]

Wrong. Just about a week ago, Zamparini said that he would sell Pastore to Milan, and a few days ago, he said that Milan might be the only Italian club that can afford Pastore.

And one loose comment erases a lifelong hatred and ridiculous comments over the last 5 years?

 

[AlexT]

He is an asshole.
He saw that noone is crazy to offer 50 milion for Pastore because for that money you can have Fabgreas and now he is talking nice things bout us.

And before that he was eating shit in almost every interview about us,what an idiotic president.

Yes, he's a big dick, but who can blame him for wanting to make as much money as he can?

He's doing Pastore a huge disservice by putting such a ridiculous pricetag, though. At this rate, he would ruin the guy's career.

And one loose comment erases a lifelong hatred and ridiculous comments over the last 5 years?

What does it have to do with his hatred for Milan? He might dislike Milan all he wants, but in the end, the only thing he cares about is money, and his latest comments show that he's perfectly willing to sell to Milan, and that's my point.

 

[Senatore_M84]

You guys do know there's a difference from transfer value and price right?

Sanchez for all his talent is not a 40 million euro player. Andy Caroll is not a 40 million euro player. But in both cases neither club wants to sell there prized asset so they say, ok if you want him, you pay more than he's worth... you pay us what we think he WILL be worth one day.

De Laurenitis is doing this with Hamsik which is why we backed off. He will only accept an offer of 40+ and as much as i love hamsik, he's not worth that, pastore's not etc.

Zamperini is trying to do this with Pastore. But only he knows if he's serious or not. I can't get a proper read on him, but basically there are two options. 1) he won't sell unless he gets 40+ mil range. 2) he does want to sell, he's saying this to see what he can get then will ultimately sell to highest offer, which could be only 22-25 mil.

If he does get sold for 25 mil that's the difference between Pastore and Hamsik situations. Zamperini would want to sell and took highest offer. De Laurenitis isn't interested in selling and will only consider it, if someone overpays thus giving him a way to justify it.

 

[AlexT]

^^ I'm saying the same thing. Only Zamparini does want to sell very much this summer, because the odds are, he would get much less for Pastore next year with Fair Play rules and everything.

 

[Redman10]

Messi played well yesterday but haters will always find something. Now, they say it the 2nd major tournament Messi has failed to score in for Argentina.