UEFA Champions League 2014 -2015

[Massaro94]

Love it

 

[Redman10]

 

[milanoldfarts]

 

[Tantalis]

messi is complacent cause look at the marketing tool he has become. wins awards he shouldnt, like golden ball in 2014. when he accepted the award he had the look on on his face like he felt he didnt deserve it. fifa is mad corrupt, giving messi everything possible atm = $$$

give a person everything and they'll be uninterested, honestly for messi what is there to fight for besides a world cup win?

 

[SpartanMilan]

Bartha are still sponsored by a country who uses slave labor to build stadiums. Cunts.

 

[SpartanMilan]

That being said, Bartha were the better team overall, although I really think Juve got screwed by the no call on the rugby tackle by that piece of shit Alves on Pogba.

Vidal and Tevez were well below their normal level, which really fucked Juve's chances to win, and not having Chellini also really hurt them.

Overall, solid Final.

 

[Allan_Sombrero]

messi is complacent cause look at the marketing tool he has become. wins awards he shouldnt, like golden ball in 2014. when he accepted the award he had the look on on his face like he felt he didnt deserve it. fifa is mad corrupt, giving messi everything possible atm = $$$

give a person everything and they'll be uninterested, honestly for messi what is there to fight for besides a world cup win?

This is why I love and appreciate Maldini so much. I don't remember him getting complacent in his late career despite having won 3 UCL titles already and reaching a world cup final.

 

[vB9]

Great game.

Juve have given them a much much better game than united did (both attempts)

Agreed.

Physical adrenaline-driven cunts like Van Bommel, Keane, Gattuso, Gravesen etc. I can understand

Wtf r u doing naming Gravesen in that pool of players?

Marchisio

I like his shots! If B means Marchisio type Italian players for Milan... Im only too happy.

Played for like 10 minutes.

King Cunt Terry didnt even play a second.

Can't do shit till 2016.

Vermaelen Ffs.

 

[vB9]

Messi is way at the back... I think Enrique is a dead man walking.

 

[Massaro94]

So close... yet so far

 

[Deunamist]

By juve standards, will they have a 5 CL badge on their shirts next year?

after all they did walk half the road 6 times and we all know how good they are at math

 

[Az.]

That being said, Bartha were the better team overall, although I really think Juve got screwed by the no call on the rugby tackle by that piece of shit Alves on Pogba.

Vidal and Tevez were well below their normal level, which really fucked Juve's chances to win, and not having Chellini also really hurt them.

Overall, solid Final.

No it didn't, Barzagli played a great game vs barca. Tevez missing a shitload of chances hurt them, and Vidal and Pogba being mostly useless didn't help at all.

 

[KujaIX]

Barzagli was great.

If Pogba and Vidal played to their potential and Tevez finished chances in the way he has done all season, Juventus probably would have won.

 

[jammin]

Pogba was the best Juve player you casuals

 

[necromancer]

Barzagli was always a better defender than Chiellini. More technical, more intelligent.

Actually he would be a solid signing for us right now. Galliani should target him.

 

[Dejan Savicevic]

LMAO it was...2003 was the 2nd best final last decade...deal with it

why should I deal with it??? it was boring as fuck. second half both team where playing for pks. bullshit game.

Today's final was like a fucking friendly lmfao...fucking slow as fuck...like watching 60 year old grandpa's playing a charity match...disgusting...I nearly fell asleep

lol, it is getting better. it was not a Istanbul 2005, but it was a good match, whih

Barca didn't toy shit...they would have been destroyed if Ladri had a Big Game Striker and a WC Trequartista...and Ladri weren't even that good...it's just Barca's shitty defense was so fucking shitty...a good attacking team would have had a field day today

Barcelona dominated the game for most part of the game. although the end to end stuff at times made it interesting but still Barcelona were in control for most part and Messi was as usual making his salmon runs despite having a game far from his best. Although IMO had Barcelona given the ball to Juventus and try to play on counter, they would have been much more dangerous.

Football has gone down the shitter since 2006

yes when I was young, grasses were green, now they are grey.

Yup. Dude has been disappointing. I used to be excited to see him play before. Now I'm just like meh.

seriously??? this season especially since Jan, he is has been the most exciting player I have seen since Ronaldinho.

I like Messi a lot. He's one of my favorite players but he is not on the level he was years ago. Years ago he was a monster, now he can be contained a lot easier if there isn't a CF to pull defenders away from him. The world cup is evidence of that and Barcelona last year as well before he got injured.

Messi can be contained, so can be any other Player in the history. but players like him can turn any game on there own with little magic. The world cup evidence is bullshit. that team was poor functionally when it came to attacking play, and when Di Maria went, it became worse. anyways I am getting bit annoyed how many people downplay Messi's World Cup performances? Obviously he wasn't anywhere near his physical peak, but too many people make it sound like he had an average world cup and it was kinda prove that he can't do it without his Barca teammates or nonsense like that. He scored half of Argentina's goals while playing as a number 10, created a ton of chances which his high profile teammates wasted regularly with ridiculous finishing (Di Maria was probably the biggest disappointment of the tournament after his excellent performances for Real before he got injured, Aguero was half-fit and completely useless when he played, as was Higuain with the exception of the goal against Belgium). I've now read several times that Mascherano was Argentina's best player, which makes no sense. He had his standout performance in the ultra defensive semifinal against the Netherlands and was very good in the final, no doubt, but overall? Certainly not. It's like saying Schweinsteiger was Germany's best player, he wasn't, doesn't matter how big a legend he's now for that final performance.

That Argentina side wasn't anything special overall, if you look at the performances of the players and not at the names on the pitch. But I even read a few times that's Messi's fault as well, because he's supposed to make his teammates perform at their best level. I'd understand it if he occupied the space where others prefered to play in, but he actually was really selfless, played very deep most of the time and served the strikers and wingers chances on a silver platter, but they simply wasted them. How's that his fault? It was a solid side, with a core of Garay who played really well in defense, Mascherano having a great tournament in defensive midfield and Messi being left alone in basically everything that happened in the opponent's half.

I get it, many hoped for a Maradona-esque World Cup (and I'm fecking glad it didn't happen , Messi winning WOrld Cup in Brazil, I would rather die). But it's also obvious that we saw an all time great player nowhere near fully fit playing on an incredibly high level, that few others could reach, even if they're fit. Shouldn't he deserve praise for that?

Should he have won the Golden Ball? Maybe not. While his influence in key moments was really really good, his fitness issues, whatever the reasons were, meant he wasn't the consistent threat throughout games, he can be. But the outcry about it is much more ridiculous than the fact that he actually won it. Sure, you could make a case for James or Robben or give it to Neuer or M?ller for winning, but the latter rarely happened (Schillaci, Ronaldo, Kahn, Zidane, Forlan didn't win the World Cup either, when they won the Golden Ball, only 3 out of the 9 times since its existence it went to a winner) and the former two weren't really any better than Messi up until the quarterfinals. James then went out without doing a lot and Robben was just as invisible as Messi in the semifinal they played against each other. Robben scored his 3 goals in the first 2 games of the group stages and while he appeared to be a constant threat in the knockout stages on the counter, there wasn't that much end product to it (with the exception of the dive of course).

Now don't get me wrong, all of those guys played an exceptional tournament and statistics shouldn't be too important in judging players. It's just mind-boggling how much criticism Messi gets for still being as good as all the others and being highly influential into a team reaching the final and narrowly losing it in extra-time. Never before has a high profile player with an obviously very good tournament faced that much criticism. It's just sad.

Suarez is the one pulling defenders. He is there to make Neymar and Messi have an easier time attacking and not getting closed down as much. He has to play the dirty role upfront so other players get freedom to move around. Look no further than their first game where Barcelona got defeated 3-1 and Suarez was not in form due to just making his debut for Barcelona that day. Once Suarez adapted they were able to defeat Atletico Madrid who had given both them and Madrid trouble last season (as well as this season). They also defeated every team they came across in the UCL with ease. Messi had a brilliant season overall but he also had a good CF to help him and that is something I don't overlook.

Messi does not need Suarez to be great, Suarez at CF has been a great tactical piece no doubt. I dont overlook it, but I dont go on saying Suarez has been better/more valuable than Messi. Suarez would not have scored the two goals which Messi scored in the semis.

I'm aware Messi was injured for a couple months last year but it doesn't excuse his laziness and his complacent attitude this year.

lol this year, he has been crashing teams like anything. I mean seriously??? Messi can be lazy, he has earned the right. for Barcelona everytime going got tougher, it was him who rescued Barcelona whether by scoring or dominating the game.

stats dont tell anything but it is still impressive:

Maradona > Messi anyday. Diego had grit and transformed an average team into a very good one. I don't see Messi doing that with Argentina or Napoli in the 80's.

Neither of Argentina or Napoli were average, they had players who complimented him and his style very well. When they did not went the Maradona way in 1990 WC, Maradona like 2014 Messi was playing not so legendary game.

Not impressed tbh
A good organized defense can easily contain them
Messi has been complacent as fuck for years now and seems so lazy these days...not the unstoppable monster he was in the Pep era

this is bullshit. This season Messi has destroyed teams in La Liga and CL alike. even last season, despite not being fit, he still had was their most decisive player. He has dribbled way more this season than he did in those days

I doubt they can defend it...and I fucking hope they won't cuz that would be a fucking joke...they had no business being in the final this year to begin with...Pep just gifting them entry to the finals...fuck him

Pep did tactical error in the first 15 minutes, but later they were in control of the game, and it took some special Messi time for Barcelona to make it 3-0.

 

[Massaro94]

No it didn't, Barzagli played a great game vs barca. Tevez missing a shitload of chances hurt them, and Vidal and Pogba being mostly useless didn't help at all.

People like to paint chiellini as some GOAT

These are his errors from this seasons knockout phase.

Slip vs BvB which gifted Reus the away goal

Handball vs Monaco which should have resulted in a red... this was in the first 10-15 minutes of the 2nd leg

Gave away the penalty for the Real goal in the bernebeu.

If he was a foreign defender they'd be labelling him as fodder.

He's lucky that he did get injured cos Messi would have toyed with him after his comments early on this week.

 

[Dejan Savicevic]

Chiellini is Italian version of Ramos, although the Spanish is far better with the ball.

 

[jammin]

This Barca vs 2011 Barca

Go

 

[AsparagusFC]

lel

 

[AsparagusFC]

6 times failed at final Champions League... lel

 

[milanoldfarts]

delete thread

 

[milanoldfarts]

No it didn't, Barzagli played a great game vs barca. Tevez missing a shitload of chances hurt them, and Vidal and Pogba being mostly useless didn't help at all.

This
I keep saying their attack didn't work at all and they don't have creative mids like a Seedorf/Kaka to carry the ball to them and make the difference

If Carlo's Milan was playing yesterday against this Farca they would have destroyed that weak defense so fucking easily

 

[milanoldfarts]

why should I deal with it??? it was boring as fuck. second half both team where playing for pks. bullshit game.

Just stop talking
If you like slow boring as fuck football like yesterday's final you have shit taste...period

2003 Final was awesome...only bad thing was Sheva's goal was denied early on
And Milan were playing with 10 men in 2nd half(R.Junior being injured and made all 3 subs) and still were playing really good

By your stupid logic just because a match goes into penalties that means it's a bad match

I really can't believe some people's terrible taste nowadays...whatever uke:

 

[Dejan Savicevic]

Just stop talking

you cannot say that in internet ffs.

If you like slow boring as fuck football like yesterday's final you have shit taste...period

lol yesterday was not a slow boring fuck football, 2003 second half was a slow boring as fuck game. both played for the penalties in the second half, it was not an entertaining 0-0. and please.


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003 Final was awesome...only bad thing was Sheva's goal was denied early on
And Milan were playing with 10 men in 2nd half(R.Junior being injured and made all 3 subs) and still were playing really good

you played good as long as Rui Costa did not lost his steam, after he faded in it was a shit game, with both teams playing slow fuck game.

By your stupid logic just because a match goes into penalties that means it's a bad match

read properly kid, it might help you. never said the match that goes into penalties is bad, but deliberately playing for the pks is horrible.

I really can't believe some people's terrible taste nowadays...whatever uke:

and I cant really believe the revisionists we have here.

 

[Tadej]

That was one of the best finals...boring

 

[Sage]

it was a very good final, although barca were pissing me off with their robinho finishing.

 

[Dejan Savicevic]

That was one of the best finals...boring

ask any neutral who went to see that game.

It was the penalty shootout which made the match nail biting, but the normal time play was snooze worthy. Both the coaches were defensive in that game. great to watch if you like defensive game, but I dont enjoy defensive games, I do appreciate the effort, but I like attacking game, and that final lacked any of that.
it was boring.

 

[Jasper]

"Drinking Juventini's tears like: "

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CG2PzLLUYAI7GtV.jpg:large

Doesn't really work

6 times failed at final Champions League... lel

They should get a badge for that. Evra only player to loose a final in 3 different squads should get personal one too.

Adriano

 

[Sage]

maybe juve will put "8 sul campo" under their CL badge next season